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Smoke, not nicotine, is the problem
Sun Times ^
| November 18, 2004
| Dr. Brad Rodu
Posted on 11/18/2004 11:20:24 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'll continue to enjoy my cigars (Monica-free and I don't inhale).
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:22:01 AM PST
by
peyton randolph
(Time for Bush to pack the U.S. Supremes)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Beware of that secondhand spit.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:24:35 AM PST
by
Izzy Dunne
(Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
To: peyton randolph
So what should we think of all the lip and throat cancer threats we've been told of?
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:24:44 AM PST
by
Minn
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:24:53 AM PST
by
Gabz
(Thank a Veteran today............and every day)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Unfortunately, chew is taxed at the same rate as cigarettes. Everytime the tax on smokes goes up, supposedly to deter smoking & fund treatment for tobacco-related illnesses, so does the tax on chew.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Research proves that smokeless products are 98 percent safer than cigarettes... and 98percent grosser.
Especially if you are one of the people who develops cancer and has to have his jaw removed.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:26:57 AM PST
by
MediaMole
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Well, the smoke literally stinks. So, I'd say, yeah, it's pretty undesirable.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:28:36 AM PST
by
k2blader
(It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I'll light up a cigar once I get home on honor of the Smoke-Out.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:29:35 AM PST
by
theDentist
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I plan on smoking 20lbs of pork butt and 3 racks of spare pork ribs this weekend. Oh well.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:31:58 AM PST
by
mlbford2
("Never wrestle with a pig; you can't win, you just get filthy, and the pig loves it...")
To: MediaMole
I think they are talking about these nicotine breath mints....
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:32:58 AM PST
by
TFine80
(Patton's Son: "There's no soap ever been invented that can wash that blood off his hands.")
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
People are born that way and can't change. /sarcasm
To: SheLion; Gabz; Conspiracy Guy; CSM
The reality is that for the 400,000 American smokers who die each year, total abstinence was impossible and entirely unnecessary.There's that made up number again.
Amazing how even doctors, professors, and even professional researchers won't do their own research to see how that number is achieved.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:36:49 AM PST
by
Just another Joe
(Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
To: mlbford2
I tried to smoke pork butt once, but it kept going out...
To: Minn
So what should we think of all the lip and throat cancer threats we've been told of? We all takes risks. Cigars are one of mine. I'm more likely to die in an auto accident than from smoking cigars.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:44:42 AM PST
by
peyton randolph
(Time for Bush to pack the U.S. Supremes)
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Nicotine, while powerfully addictive, is about as safe as caffeine, another widely consumed addictive drug. http://www.prn2.usm.my/mainsite/bulletin/1995/prn2.html
The fatal dose of pure nicotine is approximately 40-60 mg (0.6-1.0 mg/kg, 1-2 drops) i.e. the quantity contained in 2 g of tobacco (equivalent to 2 common blend cigarettes; 15-25 mg of nicotine per cigarette)
Caffiene is far safer.. http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Caffiene The LD50 is estimated to be about 192 mg/kg of body mass, or about 72 cups of coffee for an average adult.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Nicotine, while powerfully addictive, is about as safe as caffeine, another widely consumed addictive drug.
Right. I happen to believe that nicotine is beneficial to one's health. I'm virtually covered in nicotine patches and I keep a golf ball sized wad of nicotine gum in my mouth at all times.
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:53:26 AM PST
by
Jaysun
(If you are what you eat then I'm cheap, fast, and bad for your health.)
To: Odyssey-x
The fatal dose of pure nicotine is approximately 40-60 mg (0.6-1.0 mg/kg, 1-2 drops) i.e. the quantity contained in 2 g of tobacco (equivalent to 2 common blend cigarettes; 15-25 mg of nicotine per cigarette) How much of that nicotine actually makes it to the blood stream as opposed to being burned or inhaled and exhaled without being absorbed?
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posted on
11/18/2004 11:58:55 AM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
To: Odyssey-x
good work on those stats...but we forgot something, smoking doesn't give you a full dose. Its similar to the idea that you can smoke a lot more crack than you can inject into your blood.
I'm kind of confused how (yes i smoke) if the lethal does of nicotine is 40-60 mg, the amount of 2 normal cigs. I've already smoked 4 today...I'm still going strong. In fact how are people surviving when they smoke upwards of 1,2, and 3 packs a day? are these some sort of super humans? Probably not.
I'm not going to say that nicotine is better then caffeine, but you've left out some facts that are important to those stats. Come on now, you almost sounded like Dan rather ;) Just helping keep the fact straight
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posted on
11/18/2004 12:02:13 PM PST
by
tfecw
(left some stuff out)
To: Odyssey-x
"The fatal dose of pure nicotine is approximately 40-60 mg (0.6-1.0 mg/kg, 1-2 drops) i.e. the quantity contained in 2 g of tobacco (equivalent to 2 common blend cigarettes; 15-25 mg of nicotine per cigarette) "
So you are trying to say that smoking 2 cigarettes is enought nicotine to kill you???
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posted on
11/18/2004 12:03:28 PM PST
by
Bigh4u2
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