Judge dismisses rape case against father

Worcester (MA) Telegram and Gazette ^ | 8/18/04 | Nugent

[JesseHousman]

I do read the Bible, Shut UP.

I believe that most of the filth that has inundated our nation is manufactured by leftists. They are abetted by the leftists that populate our congresses: federal and state.

[cinFLA]

I was talking about the way illegals are not deported and simply walk away from most punshiments or arrests.

Both parents are up on multiple abuse charges.

[Onelifetogive]

...and you want to EXECUTE?!

A pre-emptive strike...just in case he is guilty.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Apparently you didn't pay much attention to it or to the thousands of years of history before the present era. Since leftist political philosophy can only be said to have emerged within the last 200 yrs or so how do you explain such erupts of evil which occurred prior to that?

Trying to blame leftists for Original Sin undermines the claim of the Right to be rational.

[Bonaparte]

"...but the article does not support your claims."

See posts 20/23

[Bonaparte]

"...was the absence of physical trauma which would have been obvious even had no ejaculation occurred."

Absence? In cases of suspected child rape, a physical examination of the genitalia is SOP. The articles mentioned only that rape kit evidence was negative. They said nothing about an "absence" of gross tissue damage. From what's presented in the articles, we can only say that we don't know, not that such signs were absent.

[Bonaparte]

"I would bet..."

Keep your wager modest, because you would lose. I'm on the side of truth, case by case and wherever it leads.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Had there been trauma it would have been noted. The fact that nothing was mentioned is a strong clue that this did not happen as claimed.

[Bonaparte]

"Both parents are up on multiple abuse charges."

See title of article...

Judge dismisses rape case against father

[Bonaparte]

"... it would have been noted."

We're making progress. You started by claiming genital trauma was absent. Now you say there is only a "strong clue" that it was absent because the reporter did not mention it. I take it from this that you are willing to conceed it may or may not have been found on physical examination.

[PaleoPal]

"And I can tell you from experience handling a wide variety of criminal cases that while most people arrested are guilty of something, sexual abuse cases involving children are more likely than many other types of cases to turn out to be bogus."

Oh come on! We know children and mothers don't lie! We know no prosecutor would heap bogus charges on an innocent man just to reap political benefit. And that could NEVER happen in Massachusetts!

Thank You,
Gerald Amirault

[TKDietz]

"Sounds like we have one set of laws for Americans and second, more lenient set for illegal immigrants."

I wouldn't say that. It's true that INS isn't deporting these people like they should, but in my experience here in my part of the south Mexicans generally get hit harder than whites on average when it comes to plea bargains and jury sentences. All things being equal I'd much rather be a reasonably clean cut middle class white local kid going through the system here than a clean cut looking Mexican, and the illegals generally do get hit harder than those here legally. I'm in a real law and order area. It's mostly white except for a growing population of Mexicans working at the chicken plants, and our juries tend to be all white and made up of mostly silver haired southern style conservatives from the Baptist, Assembly of God, Church of Christ, or Pentecostal faiths. Jurors here are much more apt to buy an "I killed him because he needed killin'" defense than be understanding toward minorities or drug addicts. There isn't much to do around here and generally about half of the tiny newspaper that comes out is made up of articles about local investigations, arrests, pleas, trials, and so on. We have several times as many law enforcement officers per capita than most places it seems. The whole law and order thing is big entertainment around here.

[justshutupandtakeit]

First of all, I never claimed trauma was absent. The fact that it was not mentioned, given the raving lunatic feminism which dominates Mass., means almost certainly that it was absent. That fact would be discernible far quicker than any bio/chem tests.

There is no reason for me to "concede" anything since I don't have a dog in this fight.

[Bonaparte]

"First of all, I never claimed trauma was absent."

justshutupandtakeit [post 35]: "Further indication that this was no rape was the absence of physical trauma which would have been obvious even had no ejaculation occurred."

(emphasis mine)

You said it before you didn't say it? ;-)

[houeto]

A pre-emptive strike...just in case he is guilty.

LMAO!!