Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 16

[Conservababe]

At our small town Memorial Service...I am always touched by the MIA-POW representative that stands in the background holding a black flag. After the colors are presented, they always acknowledge him and tell the story that he cannot present his colors but we can. So, we applaud. Did you ever hear of such, Westy?

[westmex]

Can't be a horse Resty....The horse came over to the New World with the Spanish.....

.....Westy.....

[westmex]

No Maam, but I don't go to many if any Memorial Services...

.....Westy.....

[Conservababe]

Well, if you did go to one, would you stand up and be recognized and applauded when they played your battle song?

[westmex]

My battle song??? Don't know that I have one. If I was suppose to stand I would....For whatever that is worth...

......Westy.....

[Mo1]

a hunter returns home with his kill. Is that a horse on his back?

Maybe a deer??

[restornu]

Further evidence of renegade horses in the new world was found in a burial mound in Wisconsin. A horse's skull was found buried with other indian. artifacts which were subsequently dated to around 700 AD " Chuck Baily, Louisiana Mounds Society Newsletter 31 March 15, 1990 Page 4

"Survival of Pre-Columbian Horse?" Holland Hague has written to inquire if anybody has information about the possibility of the pre-Columbian horse having survived in this hemisphere. He included documentation of horse bones radiocarbon dated to A.D. years prior to Columbus that were then not followed up by the scholars involved. The pre-Columbian horse was supposed to have become extinct about 10,000 years ago, when the satire-toothed tiger, mammoth, giant ground sloth and other large mammals in this hemisphere died out."Lousiana Mounds Society Newsletter 29 January 1, 1990 page 5

The above picture is from The article Peru's Incredible Ica Stones By John Dan Reib From The Ancient American November/December 1993. It is part of an estimated 100, 000 ancient carved stones discovered by Dr. Javier Cabera .from under lava layers in the Ocucaje Desert near Ica Peru. Dr Cabera set upon a search which led him to a tunnel under the Nasca lines. At present has about fifteen tthousand carved in his own museum in Ica. Swedish scientists have investigated his stones and find them sufficiently to be worthy of further investigation.

The Above picture of a bearded man and a horse is carved on the Temple of Palques, Chichen Itza, Yucatan Mexico . It was photographed by Otto Done and appeared in The Improvement Era December 1955.

The picture above is an ancient pictograph carved on rocks near Monte Vista Colorado and appeared in The Improvement Era October 1955. These carvings are considered by experts to be ancient.

A Moundbuilder pictograph of the likeness of an unbridled horse in Picture Canyon, Cirnarron County, Oklahoma, which shows that Indians in early times were acquainted with horses. This picture appeared in October 1955 Improvement Era.

The picture above was taken from page100 of the book The Mystic Symbol Mark of The Michigan Mound Builders by Henrietta Mertz ( Global Books 1986) and shows stone tablets carved by Michigan Moundbuilders.

The figure above is a view of an ancient Moundbuilder carving of a white limestone horses head discovered in North Salem New York. It is from the Book Saga America by Dr. Berry Fell page 57 and published in 1980

The picture above is a pictograph discovered in Anubis Cave Number Two in Colorado along with Ogam inscriptions and is taken from the book In Plain Sight Old World Records in Ancient America. By Gloria Farley 1994

The above picture is a pictograph from Picture Canyon, Colorado. And is considered by experts to be ancient. It was taken from the book In Plain Sight Old World Records in Ancient America. Page 349 By Gloria Farley 1994

The above picture is of a pictograph with ogam script on sholder discovered in western Oklahoma. It is considered ancient dating back to the Moundbuilder period.. It was taken from the book In Plain Sight Old World Records in Ancient America. Page 349 By Gloria Farley 1994

There are many other case that could be shown but they are similar to what we have already shown

[Conservababe]

Oh good, you would stand and I would cry in my Kleenex, as it should be. And my grandchildren would see all the men and a few women and clap for them.

Oh, if you were Army...I think your battle song is something like the 'caissons go rolling along'...whatever they are.

For heavens sakes, you do know that, don't you? LOL

[Mo1]

LOL!

[westmex]

Resty, you appear to know more about the subject than I do...

......Westy.....

[Conservababe]

Oh, my word, I just remembered that you are Air Force and not Army. LOL

Duh duh dah over the wild blue yonder, instead. LOL

But, do please still stand up.

[westmex]

That is the Artillery's song...If that's what you are talking about I suppose "Wild Blue Yonder"would be mine...Don't think it's a battle song though...lol

.....Westy.....

[Mo1]

http://www.suntimes.com/output/laney/cst-edt-laney31.html


Madison graduates show the new faces of our future

May 31, 2004

BY MARY LANEY

It was amazing. Had I not been there to see it and hear it, I never would have believed it. But I, and thousands of others, witnessed it in Madison, Wis.

It happened during commencement exercises at the Kohl Arena. Thousands of graduates marched onto the floor in their caps and gowns, then sat on chairs atop the floor where the Badgers play Big Ten basketball. Proud parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews, friends and acquaintances sat in the tiers above, cameras flashing as they spotted their particular graduate. The university band played a selection of rousing tunes as the assortment of deans and professors filed onto a stage facing the assemblage.

A greeting to the students was read, and then everyone was asked to rise and sing the national anthem. Afterward, the professors were introduced, short speeches were made, and then the commencement speaker was introduced.

The school had chosen an actor for the honor because he had grown up in Madison. He began his speech with this: ''I bring you greetings from the acting president of the United States!''

The throng of graduates erupted in cheers.

The actor-speaker, you see, was none other than Bradley Whitford, who is seen weekly on the television series ''The West Wing.'' And he was on a roll . . . or so he thought.

He followed his message with a question. How was he asked to speak at the University of Wisconsin in Madison when the real president of the United States spoke the day before at a small college of 5,000 students in Mequon near Milwaukee?

This is where the amazing thing happened. When Whitford said, ''President George Bush was at Concordia [University] yesterday,'' the students erupted with applause and cheers. They were cheering for George W. Bush! The University of Wisconsin -- where Students for a Democratic Society, SDS, was born; the place known to be so far left it's off the charts -- had students cheering for a Republican president!

It appeared to surprise the speaker as his speech abruptly turned to a list of suggestions -- a formula, so to speak -- on how to achieve their goals in life.

It was surprising to hear this show of support for the sitting president, who is anything but liberal. And it made me wonder how the campus had taken such a radical U-turn.

Later, I asked some of the graduates what they thought of the commencement address and why they had cheered the president. Their answers came quickly. They didn't like Whitford's remarks about the president. They didn't think the time was right to attack a president who was leading the country in a war against terrorism.

I asked them if they supported the war, and to a graduate, they did -- at least more than dozen I spoke with. And they told me why. They told me they have friends who are in the service -- in Iraq and Afghanistan -- and they know the sacrifices they are making.

These students were history majors, and they have been studying and reading and watching just what has been happening in the world. They told me that this is a war of civilizations, and that those who are attacking the president for fighting the war in Iraq would have attacked the president had he not gone into Iraq. They pointed out that the critics of the president attacked him for taking too long to go after Afghanistan . . . and yet attacked him for going to war against Iraq too soon.

It was hard to believe I was hearing this in Madison. I remember the protests against the Vietnam War, the marches, even a bombing on the campus when I was a student there. But that was a different time and a war we never set out to win.

Now I see a different student emerging. These students are not chanting ''Hell no, we won't go!'' They're saying we're there and we're fighting those who have attacked us and want to destroy us. They're saying they know servicemen and women who have volunteered to be there, and they want their friends back safely and, until they are back, they want them to know they have support.

It was an eye-opener.

These graduates have now left Madison with their degrees. They're back home with their families in states across the country. They've received a liberal education and learned to think for themselves.

It's going to be interesting to watch this class of 2004, to see what they do in this world of uncertainty and political divisiveness. They've already learned a great lesson: to evaluate information, question it, and come up with individual thought.

There's one more thing. Today is Memorial Day, and I have a feeling it will be observed by these graduates with more than just barbecue and baseball.

Watch for these graduates. You may see them today, observing a moment of silence -- the National Moment of Remembrance at 3 this afternoon -- pausing from whatever they're doing to show respect and give thanks to those who have given so much for all of us.

If you see them, you might join them. That's what today is for, after all.

[Conservababe]

Well, that is what we call them here in Cape...battle songs. LOL

What do you call them? I always thought the Air Force battle song is a bit sissy, myself. LOL

[null and void]

I thought it was "Up in the Air Junior Birdman"...

[westmex]

What do you call them?

I don't call them anything, but if I had to put a tag on them, I'd say 'Pep Song'

......Westy.....

[restornu]

It is just Archaeology and what has occured in the later years!

I think it is interesting to bridge the gap-

Some Archaeological Outliers:
Adventures in Underground Archaeology

Authority may be a hint as to what the truth is, but is not the source of information. As long as it's possible, we should disregard authority whenever the observations disagree with it. -- Richard P. Feynman
http://ecolan.sbs.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/outliers.html

[westmex]

I don't know that one...Could you hummmm a few bars???lol

......Westy.....

[Conservababe]

High Flight

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air. . . .

Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untresspassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

— John Gillespie Magee, Jr



During the desperate days of the Battle of Britain, hundreds of Americans crossed the border into Canada to enlist with the Royal Canadian Air Force. Knowingly breaking the law, but with the tacit approval of the then still officially neutral United States Government, they volunteered to fight the Nazis.

John Gillespie Magee, Jr., was one such American. Born in Shanghai, China, in 1922 to an English mother and a Scotch-Irish-American father, Magee was 18 years old when he entered flight training. Within the year, he was sent to England and posted to the newly formed No 412 Fighter Squadron, RCAF, which was activated at Digby, England, on 30 June 1941. He was qualified on and flew the Supermarine Spitfire.

Flying fighter sweeps over France and air defense over England against the German Luftwaffe, he rose to the rank of Pilot Officer.

On 3 September 1941, Magee flew a high altitude (30,000 feet) test flight in a newer model of the Spitfire V. As he orbited and climbed upward, he was struck with the inspiration of a poem -- "To touch the face of God."

Once back on the ground, he wrote a letter to his parents. In it he commented, "I am enclosing a verse I wrote the other day. It started at 30,000 feet, and was finished soon after I landed." On the back of the letter, he jotted down his poem, 'High Flight'.

Just three months later, on 11 December 1941 (and only three days after the US entered the war), Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee, Jr., was killed. The Spitfire V he was flying, VZ-H, collided with an Oxford Trainer from Cranwell Airfield flown by one Ernest Aubrey. The mid-air happened over the village of Roxholm which lies between RAF Cranwell and RAF Digby, in the county of Lincolnshire at about 400 feet AGL at 11:30. John was descending in the clouds. At the enquiry a farmer testified that he saw the Spitfire pilot struggle to push back the canopy. The pilot, he said, finally stood up to jump from the plane. John, however, was too close to the ground for his parachute to open. He died instantly. He was 19 years old.

Part of the official letter to his parents read, "Your son's funeral took place at Scopwick Cemetery, near Digby Aerodrome, at 2:30 P.M. on Saturday, 13th December, 1941, the service being conducted by Flight Lieutenant S. K. Belton, the Canadian padre of this Station. He was accorded full Service Honors, the coffin being carried by pilots of his own Squadron."

[null and void]

OK, but first you need to make the "OK" sign with both hands. Hook your little fingers under your jaw. Rotate your wrists to bring the "O's" of the "OK" sign over your eyes, like little goggles...