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Scottish church leaders give verdict on The Passion film
Ekklesia ^ | 3.4.04

Posted on 03/06/2004 5:48:20 PM PST by ambrose

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1 posted on 03/06/2004 5:48:20 PM PST by ambrose
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I finally went to see the movie today. For the life of me I can't see how anyone sees anti-semitism in this movie. In fact, the word "jew" is spoken only once and that is by a Roman soldier. It was the most powerful experience of my life, one I will never get over. It literally left me shaken...
2 posted on 03/06/2004 5:54:29 PM PST by Russ
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To: ambrose
AYE!


3 posted on 03/06/2004 5:57:21 PM PST by jaz.357 (Liberals fund the problems they seek to solve so that they can justify taxing you to fund them.)
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To: Russ
I finally went to see the movie today. For the life of me I can't see how anyone
sees anti-semitism in this movie.


I think conservative Jewish commentator Dennis Prager has summed it up the best:
In most cases, Jews and Christians will each be seeing a different film when they
see "The Passion".

Prager was the first prominent Jew that Gibson invited to view the film.
IIRC, Prager told Gibson that he (Prager) thought the film was well-done and
very acceptable; he didn't fear anti-Semitism from the film here in the USA...but was
concerned that it might spark some anti-Semitism abroad.
4 posted on 03/06/2004 6:00:16 PM PST by VOA
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Well, critics seem to be reduced to saying that while the movie itself isn't anti-semitic, it may provoke an anti-semitic reaction... uh yeah, whatever..

I really hate what some self-appointed Jewish "leaders" are doing with this film... we're in the Boy Who Cried Wolf territory now and it bothers me a lot...
5 posted on 03/06/2004 6:02:41 PM PST by ambrose ("John Kerry has blood of American soldiers on his hands" - Lt. Col. Oliver North)
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To: VOA
"...but was concerned that it might spark some anti-Semitism abroad."

Where, the Middle East?!

6 posted on 03/06/2004 6:06:53 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (The Barbarians are Inside the Gates!)
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To: Russ
[quote]It was the most powerful experience of my life, one I will never get over. It literally left me shaken...[/quote]

It took me quite some time before I was able to speak about it after seeing it.

There aren't enough words to describe how powerful this movie is.
7 posted on 03/06/2004 6:06:56 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("By all that we hold dear on this Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!")
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To: jaz.357
YES!

Being of Scottish descent, please to hear their comments.
8 posted on 03/06/2004 6:07:06 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ambrose
we're in the Boy Who Cried Wolf territory now and it bothers me a lot...

I looked into the criticism leveled by one Irish spokesperson, and found that he is a socialist/Marxist agitator. That makes me more sceptical of the motives of all who are leveling the anti-semitism criticism. Of course, I don't for a minute think all them are Marxists, but at least one of them is, and is using Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" to stir the pot.

9 posted on 03/06/2004 6:09:31 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: SwinneySwitch
Where, the Middle East?!

Well, I suspect some of possible places would be places like France, The Netherlands,
Germany and Austria...
where you do have mosques and synagogues in the same metro areas.

Actually, Prager (along with Michael Medved and Rabbi Daniel Lapin) are the
calming, sane Jewish voice on this issue. They pretty much dismissed the idea that
the film would cause problems here in the USA...while guys like Abe Foxmand/ADL
wailing even when they hadn't seen the film.

But now we see that Abe Foxman and his fellow-travelers bought Gibson the sort
of publicity that can't be bought.
10 posted on 03/06/2004 6:12:52 PM PST by VOA
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But one Jewish leader said he felt the film may provoke anti-Semitic reaction.

Note to "Jewish leaders": take a look at the U.S. and its statistics on religiously-motivated (and film-related) murders of Jews, burnings of synagogues, and establishment of death camps (or even discussion of same) as a result of this movie.

Gimme a break. The only people who look good in this movie were Jews. (With the possible exception of one or two Roman soldiers.)

11 posted on 03/06/2004 6:14:24 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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Eamonn McCann: The roots of revolt (1988) <-- Link

Basis of Christianity is bloodily sodden with hatred of the Jews (Leading Belfast journo on Passion) <-- Link

12 posted on 03/06/2004 6:14:43 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: ambrose
There is no way this film is going to MAKE a person anti-semitic. If a person is ALREADY anti-semitic and inclined to violence, then it probably doesn't matter if they see this film or not. If anything, it might help them be more Christ-like.
13 posted on 03/06/2004 6:14:52 PM PST by Kirkwood (Its always a good time to donate to the DAV and USO.)
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To: ambrose
There is no way this film is going to MAKE a person anti-semitic. If a person is ALREADY anti-semitic and inclined to violence, then it probably doesn't matter if they see this film or not. If anything, it might help them be more Christ-like.
14 posted on 03/06/2004 6:14:55 PM PST by Kirkwood (Its always a good time to donate to the DAV and USO.)
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To: ambrose
My wife and I saw it last night. Excellent movie. And the violence was no more than what was indicated. Antisemitism is a complete non-issue.
15 posted on 03/06/2004 6:16:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Eala
Love your little Scot...

16 posted on 03/06/2004 6:21:11 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: ambrose
I think the case could be made that the film might arouse anti-semitism among the anti-semites who stumble into the film thinking they were there to see, I'm not sure what they might be thinking when they stumble in...

I think people have got to get their heads around the fact that believing Christians are determined allies of Jews, and no one is going to drive a wedge between them, not even Jewish leftists. Not even non-Jewish leftists. Its not about self-interest, but self-interest should remind Christians that the most determined anti-semites are anti-Christian as well.
17 posted on 03/06/2004 6:27:06 PM PST by marron
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How can a viewer of a movie determine that other viewers who see this will be anti semetic

I can understand how the viewer might feel that he is influenced to anti semtic feelings...as this is self reporting...but how could he know how the movie would make others feel?

Perhaps he is feeling guilty?

And blaming others for how he 'feels'

Naturally since he feels others will be persuaded to antisemtism...he feels they should not be allowed to watch it...he wants to intedict other peoples feelings thoughts and actions...kind of like "The Office of Pre-Crime"
18 posted on 03/06/2004 6:27:41 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Just mythoughts
Looks a bit like me (well not that long ago)...
19 posted on 03/06/2004 6:28:33 PM PST by Eala (Sacrificing tagline fame for... TRAD ANGLICAN RESOURCE PAGE: http://eala.freeservers.com/anglican)
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To: Eala
Awesome, I dream of visiting Scotland, and getting a peek at that Stone of Scone.

My sister got a peek in England before it got returned to Scotland.

I love the colors of the clan from which I come.
20 posted on 03/06/2004 6:31:39 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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