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Posted on 09/11/2026 2:16:22 PM PDT by karpov
In the early years of the Classic Learning Test’s existence, we believed that our fight for acceptance as a college entrance exam nationwide would happen in admissions offices. We were wrong. The legacy tests have lobbied to weave themselves into myriad state government mandates nationwide, making the college entrance exam business as political as it is academic.
Knowing this, the SAT and ACT are lobbying aggressively to try to maintain their political moat. In several states — including Georgia, Oklahoma, Texas, and more — they’ve hired lobbyists, even if one or both had not previously had one, and worked side-by-side to oppose bills that would merely make CLT legal. Thus, what would otherwise be a relatively mundane conversation between admissions officers and the makers of a newer standardized test is instead a pitched political battle.
It wasn’t always this way. When the SAT and ACT launched in the 1920s and 1950s, respectively, they competed in a free market. Both sought to answer admissions offices’ need for an objective measuring stick to assist them in sifting through the rising flood of college applicants in those decades. The SAT took the approach of trying to measure aptitude. The ACT, on the other hand, sought to provide universities with a measure of how much a student had mastered the typical public school standards. Students and admissions offices sought one or the other based on their preference between the two distinct products.
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It seems to me that the reasons why the SAT and other tests are criticized have a racial component.
They require IQs over 80?
Read about the case Griggs vs Duke Power Co
The advantage of standardized tests is that they are standardized. My SAT or ACT score is comparable to yours. It mostly doesn’t matter how current scores compare with older scores, only how current students are ranked with each other.
One advantage of the CLT, at least at the moment, is that those taking it are not competing against all those Asian students that get perfect or near perfect scores on the SAT/ACT.
From Brave AI:
U.S. Department of Education or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) recognize regional accreditors are generally considered the most prestigious and widely recognized. The seven primary regional agencies include:
“Read about the case Griggs vs Duke Power Co”
That little remembered 1971 SCOTUS decision is why companies quit using their own in-house tests to screen applicants.
And instead started requiring every job applicant to have a college degree, no matter how unneeded the degree actually is.
Griggs was built on top of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
It didn’t specifically outlaw in-house testing, but it exposed companies to endless gov’t financed lawsuits making companies “prove” that they aren’t racist, sexist, whatever-ist.
Companies can’t afford endless litigation, so they switched to making applicants pay for their own screening by getting unnecessary degrees.
You can thank your do-gooder politicians for making your life harder. It’s a bipartisan policy in case anyone is wondering.
ComputerGuy wrote: “It seems to me that the reasons why the SAT and other tests are criticized have a racial component.”
They are criticized because blacks do not score as high as other groups. That interferes with DEI, etc.
I feel like the credit bureaus are too big for their britches too.
I agree.
The ACT and SAT may not be perfect but they are a powerful tool to give universities reliable insight into the achievement levels and aptitude of applicants
This is especially important given the grade inflation and lack of academic standards in our k-12 school system
The best example of this is when the SAT and ACT were dropped from consideration by so called elite schools like Stanford and Harvard
Stanford University jumped on the DEI bandwagon and dropped the SAT and ACT ( or any other standardized test) from their application process
Of course the DEI zealots in the admissions dept proceeded to admit students from their preferred DEI affirmative action action areas and school systems
Many of these DEI admits had perfect 4.0 GPAs but they came from failing Chicago , Philly and Detroit ghetto style school systems where the typical student graduates with social promotion diplomas and a 6 th grade reading and math skills levels
Absent standardized SAT or ACT test results, admissions had no way to bench mark the students capabilities
This resulted in some serious disasters in admission with DEI admits being accepted. with literally junior high school 8th grade reading and math skill - and scholarships
The fallout from this debacle ranged from tragic and ludicrous to humorous as these DEI admits were thrown in with really outstanding top tier incoming freshman admits
Most of these DEI admits were recruited for their DEI activist mentality and they quickly gravitated to Stanford’s well established PC gender and identity politics studies programs
They did ok because student primary skill needed to get an A + was agreement with the profs radical ideology and activist fervor
Of course, they were overwhelmed trying to compete with the qualified students in Stanfords admits watered down core curriculum and when they failed the reason was of course institutionalized racism
This lasted for about two incoming classes when reality hit and to their credit, professors complained about the total lack of skills by some DEI admits and pressured the admissions to re institute standardized SAT and ACT style tests unilaterally
Harvard and the Ivy schools weren’t so proactive and had to be forced to examine their admissions policies
If I didn’t do so well on the SAT (and other standardized tests), I’d be against them also.
A friend of mine went into the Navy nuke program. He did well.
It was a highly selective program. I wonder if it was degraded with DEI.
“The Classic Learning Test was created to provide students with another way to demonstrate academic achievement while placing greater emphasis on close reading, logic, and influential texts. Unlike the SAT test and ACT test, the CLT exam features passages from classic literature, philosophy, historical documents, and other foundational works alongside contemporary readings.”
https://www.collegeadvisor.com/resources/clt-exam/
I got AC&W radar and was very pleased with that. A product of paying attention for 18 years.
In retrospect, it would have been a good idea; But I joined Uncle Sam’s Misgiuded Children.
My best friends are some of those kids.
I had a gig long ago maintaining the Luke AFR. Those kids came in from San Diego and attacked my glow in the dark survey aim points.
Those SAP’s were meant for my microwave camera systems.
Sometimes you just have to understand what you are dealing with and blame it on the weather. :^)
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