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Article: “Counterfeit Bonhoeffer”
Challies.com ^ | 2011 | Tim Challies

Posted on 11/16/2025 1:06:16 PM PST by fishtank

“ Richard Weikart of California State University says that Metaxas “serves up a Bonhoeffer suited to the evangelical taste” and notes with disbelief that in “an interview with Christianity Today Metaxas even made the astonishing statement that Bonhoeffer was as orthodox theologically as the apostle Paul.” As orthodox as Paul? Metaxas does not seem to know that in his Christology lectures in 1933 Bonhoeffer claimed, “The biblical witness is uncertain with regard to the virgin birth.” Bonhoeffer also rejected the notion of the verbal inspiration of scripture, and in a footnote to Cost of Discipleship he warned against viewing statements about Christ’s resurrection as ontological statements (i.e., statements about something that happened in real space and time). Bonhoeffer also rejected the entire enterprise of apologetics, which he thought was misguided.”

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KEYWORDS: bigtimeliberal; bonhoeffer; metaxas
Big time liberal Bonhoeffer.

PS Is Tucker Qatarlson registered as a foreign agent?

I’m a fan of neither.

1 posted on 11/16/2025 1:06:16 PM PST by fishtank
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To: fishtank
Bonhoeffer also rejected the entire enterprise of apologetics

"Never apologize; it's a sign of weakness. " (She Wore a Yellow Ribbon)

2 posted on 11/16/2025 1:33:56 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: fishtank

Blondie is. Kash Patel isn’t, even though he did paid work for the Qatar embassy. Bibi isn’t even though he did a deal in 2017 where Qatar would pay Hamas big cash. Kushner isn’t either.


3 posted on 11/16/2025 1:39:19 PM PST by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: fishtank
Thanks. Weikart suggests that Metaxas simply got in over his head–that he did not take the time to properly understand Bonhoeffer’s theological context of German liberalism.

Which was much that of liberal revisionism.

Bonhoeffer admitted that he was a theologian who “still carries within himself the heritage of liberal theology.

Accuracy should be sought in all cases.

4 posted on 11/16/2025 1:40:28 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: fishtank

BonWho?
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I guess we are not all perfect...


5 posted on 11/16/2025 1:43:41 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: daniel1212

Accuracy-—Absolutely!
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We just need More Range Time.


6 posted on 11/16/2025 1:48:11 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: fishtank

What’s His Take on Jonah?


7 posted on 11/16/2025 1:50:22 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: fishtank

“”Big time liberal Bonhoeffer.””

Bonhoeffer stood up for his belief in Jesus Christ and against the Nazis persecution of the Jews and gave his life for those beliefs...He didn’t talk the talk - he walked the walk. Calling him a liberal is nonsense. He was far from counterfeit....


8 posted on 11/16/2025 2:04:26 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: DesertRhino; fishtank
Blondie is. Kash Patel isn’t, even though he did paid work for the Qatar embassy. Bibi isn’t even though he did a deal in 2017 where Qatar would pay Hamas big cash. Kushner isn’t either.

I believe the correct form of "to be" here is was, not "is", past tense.
9 posted on 11/16/2025 2:05:16 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Trump has all the right enemies, DeSantis has all the wrong friends.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Well, you can bet it’s a whale of a tale!


10 posted on 11/16/2025 2:17:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: DesertRhino

Does it Smell Fishy?
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Jonah Laffs!


11 posted on 11/16/2025 2:34:10 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: Thank You Rush

Bonhoffer stood up to Hitler and gave his life ..


I’ve read some of his writing and got a DVD about Him.
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How can any of Us judge?
We are Still learning ourselves.
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I’m Back to Jonah.
Thanks


12 posted on 11/16/2025 4:51:49 PM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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