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” KNEW that there were spies and saboteurs amongst them ... even knew who many of them were. ....”
You have link for that?
Magic: The Untold Story (internet version)
Wikihahahapedia article on the topic
There's more out there ... a lot got written after "MAGIC" was declassified.
The Brits get a lot of press for breaking Enigma. That’s fine, they deserve it and they weren’t shy telling everybody about it.
We get essentially no press for breaking “PURPLE” and its predecessors “RED” and “BLUE”. We kept it classified for decades. That was our choice. It profoundly affected our success in WWII, and now that it’s in the open deserves to be better known.
Actions taken after the horse had been stolen!
By the time the U.S. began doing anything, the japs were already planning, designing, and constructing their own private Pearl Harbor representation...
Actions taken throughout WWII, that materially affected success in almost every operation.
Assuming ad arguendo that's true ... do you want to repeat the mistake?
Are you the kind of person who learns from history or repeats history?
I am aware of all that. In spite of a lot of effort by the Japanese government there was not a single documented case of espionage, sabotage or 5th column activity occurred. Hoover was even opposed to the internment. He knew there was no there there! Remember we had all the Japanese government records after the war.
And the Poles broke Enigma - Marian Rejewski.
The UK takes somewhat undeserved credit for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Rejewski
"All of that" contradicts your statement above.
Not at all!
A lot of effort by Japan to recruit ethnic Japanese with no success - no actual operations. Again we had their records after the war! The Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man’s League), and other similar societies were well known to the US Naval Intelligence Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Again effort but no success! Apparently the Japanese Americans weren’t buying what they were selling! This is why Hoover was opposed to the incarceration.
Their only successes was in recruiting two white American Velvalee Dickinson arrested by the FBI and John Semer Farnsworth. Farnsworth was arrested by ONI and court martialed in 1930. A bit before the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velvalee_Dickinson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Semer_Farnsworth.
The Germans did much better, even the Italians did better.
Again, the sources I provided contradict you.
I have all of those books.
I’ll check.
Right at the end of the runway at that!
bump to the top
Screw you.
https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1988040274132824454
https://x.com/angertab/status/1988001233450541280
There! Fixed it!
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