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President Vladimir Putin Notes Russia Does Not Desire NATO Conflict, But Russia Is Prepared for It
The Conservative Treehouse - The Last Refuge ^ | October 3, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 10/03/2025 5:47:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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1 posted on 10/03/2025 5:47:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The wording tells me he may be looking for an honorable exit, especially in light of Gaza.


2 posted on 10/03/2025 5:50:00 PM PDT by libh8er
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Russian mir, wow


3 posted on 10/03/2025 6:06:36 PM PDT by blitz128
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s an example from Putin:

“What is needed here is a philosophy of complexity – something akin to quantum mechanics, which is wiser and, in some ways, more complex than classical physics.”

Spoken like a true bs artist, or kook.

He was also taking questions from an Iranian “professor” and spouting a lot of harmful crap about Hamas and Gaza.

And we have people here telling us “Vlad” is a great speaker.

BTW no, Russia is not prepared for a conflict with NATO. Not to win one, in any event.


4 posted on 10/03/2025 6:09:11 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bullsqueeze Vlad.


5 posted on 10/03/2025 6:12:45 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Russia has proven time and again: when threats arise to our security, to the peace and tranquillity of our citizens, to our sovereignty and the very foundations of our statehood, we respond swiftly.”

LOL!


6 posted on 10/03/2025 6:19:32 PM PDT by TexasGator (The 750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And neither Ukraine nor NATO desired a conflict with Russia. Just go home and all the conflicts will end.


7 posted on 10/03/2025 6:38:50 PM PDT by Petrosius
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Conflict with Russia was the whole point of NATO’s orchestrating of the coup in Ukraine in 2014. Not to mention all the fake “Russian drones” flying around lately, as if it’s Russia that wants a wider conflict with an alliance 7X their size and much wealthier. That’s a very clear NATO false flag operation to salvage their collapsing operation in Ukraine.


8 posted on 10/03/2025 6:41:52 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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And neither Ukraine nor NATO desired a conflict with Russia.

That's why they amassed troops in Ukraine and had the Nazi Azov Battalion shell the Russian speaking citizens.

9 posted on 10/03/2025 6:44:10 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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To: libh8er

Which is exactly what President Trump has been trying to offer Putin. An honorable off-ramp from that mess. He needs to take it as there is no winning that will happen in that war (for either Russia or Ukraine).

A PDJT-negotiated peace will allow both of those countries to stop the bleed, and do so in a way where both countries ‘equally lose.’

I say equally loss because one of the biggest problems with the war is both Russia and Ukraine want to ‘win.’ There is not going to be a winner, period!

For example, although Russia has been winning a slow attrition warfare, taking over the remaining part of the Donetsk region would cost a lot of Russian lives. As much as Russia said the whole of the Donbass is now their territory, they would have to ‘lose’ by having to give that idea. As hard as it may now seem.

As for Ukraine, sure they have had heavy assistance from the US and Europe in terms of moral support (Zelenskyy must be one of the most travelled presidents), a LOT of money, and more military equipment than one can count. However, he needs to ‘lose’ by realizing Crimea is gone. Also, if the human cost to Russia has been absolutely devastating, the human cost for Ukraine (having a far smaller population, the losses of life and limb due to the war, plus the many young Ukrainians who left the country and will not come back) is nightmarish!

Both Russia and Ukraine need to understand there is no ‘winning’ that war. The PDJT-negotiated off-ramp is their only hope of ‘losing a lot without losing everything.’

Sure, some pro-Russian people (especially outside Russia, meaning there is no real cost to them) may want Putin to continue with his slow and grinding push. Some pro-Ukrainian people (similarly outside Ukraine, and thus suffering no cost) may want Zelenskyy to keep fighting on no matter the cost. It is very easy for outsiders to cheer on Putin and Zelenskyy when there is no personal cost.

But for the sake of their people, Putin and Zelenskyy need to accept whatever President Trump has to say, and stop that damned war.


10 posted on 10/03/2025 6:44:45 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Williams
“What is needed here is a philosophy of complexity – something akin to quantum mechanics, which is wiser and, in some ways, more complex than classical physics.

Spoken like a true bs artist, or kook.

Or, spoken like George Soros philosophizing. Both want to change the way the world is understood and reality is judged. Putin wants to change the way the world is understood because, whether one thinks as Newton or as Einstein, or even as George Soros, Putin has misjudged the world and brought his country to ruin.


11 posted on 10/03/2025 7:00:52 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: Williams
“What is needed here is a philosophy of complexity – something akin to quantum mechanics, which is wiser and, in some ways, more complex than classical physics.

Spoken like a true bs artist, or kook.

Or, spoken like George Soros philosophizing. Both want to change the way the world is understood and reality is judged. Putin wants to change the way the world is understood because, whether one thinks as Newton or as Einstein, or even as George Soros, Putin has misjudged the world and brought his country to ruin.


12 posted on 10/03/2025 7:01:03 PM PDT by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack! - Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

Exactly.


13 posted on 10/03/2025 8:23:27 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: libh8er

Really? And what Gaza has to do with it?


14 posted on 10/04/2025 1:06:53 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: spetznaz

A very simplistic take. I don’t see neocons looking to stop it. Putin knows from past experience that whatever peace agreement would be broken the moment they find fits and he will be blamed for it.


15 posted on 10/04/2025 1:12:20 AM PDT by NorseViking
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The Kingdom will be much simpler. And Vlad won’t be around.


16 posted on 10/04/2025 2:04:00 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (The scoffers will say where is the promise of His coming? Turn on your damn TV)
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To: Williams

“BTW no, Russia is not prepared for a conflict with NATO. Not to win one, in any event.”

And except for the USA, NATO is not prepared for a conflict with Russia. You’re not going to get your wished for war.


17 posted on 10/04/2025 3:23:22 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Lol, and Putin also said he wasn’t going to invade Ukraine...


18 posted on 10/04/2025 4:44:05 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: rxh4n1

I don’t wish for any war and the fact you think so shows you believe something delusional about intentions towards Russia.

Because the Russia hippies (and you are a bunch of leftists by any other name) can’t figure this out;

I seldom bother to post anything in support of Ukraine, I only REACT to the leftist nut balls who worship Russia and Putin, have a pathological hatred of Ukraine and Europe, and yes, like all good leftists - express hatred toward America.

“Neocon” is your new version of “AmeriKKKa”.


19 posted on 10/04/2025 6:53:28 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Of course he doesn’t want a NATO conflict. Putin is barely keeping his head above water in the Ukraine. We wants out but has to walk away with a deal that his people will accept for the loss of all those Russian boys.


20 posted on 10/04/2025 7:12:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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