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Why did they put that into the Constitution of the State of Virginia?
PGA Weblog ^ | 8/31/25

Posted on 09/01/2025 3:03:08 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

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The Founding Fathers tried, repeatedly, to cry out to us about their disdain for the king vetoing their laws.

They have my ear, that is for sure.

1 posted on 09/01/2025 3:03:08 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: jeffersondem; DiogenesLamp; x; BroJoeK; woodpusher

Ping to no reply needed.

You ought to consider reading the text of this Constitution though.

Why is that in the text of the Virginia Constitution?


2 posted on 09/01/2025 3:10:18 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Good post, thx PA


3 posted on 09/01/2025 3:19:11 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“These things are good for me, the King, and what you need is irrelevant so your laws are irrelevant and vetoed”

Sort of like what’s happening now in the UK, where the citizens want to stop illegal aliens from invading their country, but the king (Prime Minister) veto’s it.

The political leaders of the UK are against it’s own people. That is a fact.


4 posted on 09/01/2025 3:31:14 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: one guy in new jersey

I grew up in Virginia, and was taught all this from fifth grade elementary school..... When I was a sophomore in high school, my family was transferred to Pennsylvania, I spent the next two years fighting tooth and nail against the lies taught up north. Unfortunately, public education is now managed by the federal government, and the entire country is raised on these lies. Thank you so much for posting this, I hope everyone here will read it, and do their own damn research, and hopefully learn the truth. The damage is done, but until the truth is accepted, this country will NEVER heal. Someone flag that Simpson idiot to make sure he sees this.


5 posted on 09/01/2025 3:46:02 AM PDT by Segovia (https://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2025/07/06/fossil-fooled-lives-vs-lies-n2659950)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

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6 posted on 09/01/2025 4:02:09 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: Flavious_Maximus
"The political leaders of the UK are against it’s own people. That is a fact."

I know this is reactive, but I swear if you put the word Democrats in the above sentence it would be accurate to what has happened and continues to happen.

"The Democrats of the United States are against their own people."

7 posted on 09/01/2025 4:18:18 AM PDT by Enterprise ( These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

That is very impressive. I confess I was unaware of it.
Very strange, then, that, after independence, slavery was not banned either in the US or Virginia.

Not for 2 generations and, in part, took a very bloody war to do so.


8 posted on 09/01/2025 4:27:12 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Adder

After Independence it was too late.

The proper time to abolish slavery was prior to Independence.


9 posted on 09/01/2025 4:37:49 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The states before the revolution were independent ao some would have abolished slavery but never all 13.
The American colonies were not allowed to transport slaves from Africa. That was a British, Dutch and Portugese franchise and most slaves went to the Carribbean and South American plantations were they were consumed. In North America the climate didn’t kill them.
The british restricted a lot of movement to the American colonies to support their economy. Spring steel was one so clocks made here had to use English steel or had to be wound evryday like my Chauncey Jerome clock.


10 posted on 09/01/2025 5:33:58 AM PDT by JeanLM (s )
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To: ProgressingAmerica; Flavious_Maximus; Adder
We need to overthrow courts acting like King by “putting a negative” (vetoing) our laws and directives of a legally elected President.

This truly is a communist plot. The communists want to weaken America. A main cause of revolutions is lack of justice in the courts and legal system.

11 posted on 09/01/2025 6:38:27 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free ( )
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12 posted on 09/01/2025 6:50:04 AM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Bkmk


13 posted on 09/01/2025 6:51:09 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: ProgressingAmerica

George Mason


14 posted on 09/01/2025 7:01:12 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: JeanLM

a little fuzzy on this

but I believe Queen Anne in signing a peace treaty with spain was able to get a 300 year monopoly on transporting spain’s slaves


15 posted on 09/01/2025 7:07:02 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: sauropod

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16 posted on 09/01/2025 7:14:06 AM PDT by Loud Mime ("The Real Constitution" on Amazon. We are not right wing - we are constitutional centrists.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
"those very negroes whom, by an inhuman use of his negative, he hath refused us permission to exclude by Law"

This is a piece of supporting evidence for the fact that white people of that era did *NOT* want black people in their society. Many will read that as a rejection of slavery, but the wording implies it is a rejection of black people, which fits with other things i've read over the years.

"but when we consider that it greatly retards the Settlement of the Colonies with more useful Inhabitants,"

"More useful inhabitants"? Do they mean white people? Other Europeans? More supporting evidence that they did not want black people among them.

Because the king kept interfering with early American abolitionism,...

You can read it that way, and for some people of that era, this is likely true, but for most, I think, the great objection is to bringing black people into their communities. They didn't want them.

I've read that a lot of the people of that era considered them "evil", "Unclean" "of the devil", and "punished by God". People were very religious back then, and they were prone to believing all sorts of things that we wouldn't accept nowadays.

You only want to look at Pollyanna versions of history. You ignore anything that is ugly.

I wish I could, but I have much experience with human nature, and it is usually a mistake to impart noble motives to people when so much of what they do indicates they will be a snake if given half a chance.

17 posted on 09/01/2025 7:21:17 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ProgressingAmerica
The proper time to abolish slavery was prior to Independence.

If that had been the plan, we would have abolished it when England did, because we would still be part of them.

18 posted on 09/01/2025 2:14:06 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Knowing that you favor the King over the South I am now utterly bored with this. I have no doubt that your word count for when you read the Virginian Constitution rests at a solid zero. You didn't read it. You don't care and could not care any less.

"Many will read that as a rejection of slavery, but the wording implies it is a rejection of black people, which fits with other things i've read over the years."

It was still something the Virginians wanted, and the king vetoed it. That makes it that the King is mistreating Southerners. But that doesn't matter to you since I'm just "painting the king" and you choose the king over the south.

"Do they mean"

I already stated that welders are more valuable than street sweepers. Nothing left for me here.

"I think, the great objection is to bringing black people into their communities. They didn't want them."

Yeah, ok, whatever. This is me at the height of my boredom.

The Virginians didn't want the blacks, whatever you say. It's still the king vetoed their law and the king cannot be said to have done anything else but mistreated the South.

"You ignore anything that is ugly."

Calling someone a slave owning abolitionist is remarkably realist, as is calling some Briton a slave trading abolitionist. It's pure realism. It accepts the bad, accepts that they changed their minds, and accepts that they went on to do the good thing. Realism. Learn it, love it, live it as Rush would say.

You know I guess there is still one small detail left that piques my interest.

Why is it ok for you that the King mistreated the South but its outrageous that that dictator Lincoln mistreated the South?

19 posted on 09/01/2025 2:23:12 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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Knowing that you favor the King over the South I am now utterly bored with this.

?????

20 posted on 09/01/2025 2:27:27 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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