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What the Constitution Didn’t Say - and Why It Matters Now
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-19-25 | Vince

Posted on 08/19/2025 6:40:22 AM PDT by Starman417

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1 posted on 08/19/2025 6:40:22 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

I’m actually not a fan of term limits. That is a two-edged sword. The only term limits should be elections.


2 posted on 08/19/2025 6:43:42 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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To: Starman417
Think of the human condition in the modern as two parts of an irreconcilable contradiction:

1. Everyone wants to pay as little as possible for what they buy.

2. Everyone wants to get paid as much as possible for what they sell (and for most people, what they sell is their labor).

95% of the U.S. government is in place to help Americans pretend that this irreconcilable contradiction doesn't exist.

3 posted on 08/19/2025 6:46:41 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Although my eyes were open, they might just as well be closed.")
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To: Starman417

https://www.usa.gov/agency-index


4 posted on 08/19/2025 6:48:15 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Starman417

The Constitution doesn’t mention term limits because the founding fathers couldn’t conceive of professional grifters in politics .


5 posted on 08/19/2025 6:52:52 AM PDT by Mastador1
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To: Starman417

The thought of democracy is repugnant. We are not that. We have a republican form of governance. Learn what that means. Put the choosing of senators back in the hands of state governments. Make all federal spending reduce to no more than they accumulate on an annual basis.


6 posted on 08/19/2025 7:00:35 AM PDT by exnavy (See article IV section 4 of our constitution.)
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First: “...we can see things that might have been added. Number one is probably term limits.”

Followed by: “The House, the place from which spending originates, is the closest to the people and is elected every two years. The President, who executes the laws, has a term of four years. Then the Senate, originally the representatives of the state legislatures, serve staggered six-year terms.”

Those are term limits.


7 posted on 08/19/2025 7:01:59 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: Mastador1

the founders counted on educated electorates to weed out grifters.

term limits are unnecessary if the electorate is well informed.


8 posted on 08/19/2025 7:03:26 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Mastador1
John Dingell, 59 years in the House of Representatives. His office was previously held by his father for 22 years and is now occupied by his wife, Debbie Dingell.

That's 92 years from 1933 to present....

9 posted on 08/19/2025 7:09:02 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s such a profound, succinct, and accurate way to describe the problems with government! Thanks for posting!


10 posted on 08/19/2025 7:10:33 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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but it spends like a drunken sailor on liberty weekend.

Untrue, drunken sailors stop spending when they are out of money. They don't charge their debts to others.
11 posted on 08/19/2025 7:12:06 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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What the Founding Fathers never envisioned, however, was a permanent government, in either the elected officials or the bureaucracy. …
Nope, and that’s what the Tenth Amendment was supposed to prevent. However, the communists had other ideas.
In America, where a democratic constitution has already been established, the communists must make the common cause with the party which will turn this constitution against the bourgeoisie and use it in the interests of the proletariat …
The 16th Amendment, by abolishing the taxation protections in the original form of the Constitution, instead substituted one of the ten planks of communism: “A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.” Subsequent amendments and legislation put ice on the slippery slope.
12 posted on 08/19/2025 7:12:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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The problem is, as John Adams correctly noted, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

The USA has become a nation of mostly IMMORAL people. Today’s Americans want no control over their worst human failings and sins. America is now a nation of narcissists.


13 posted on 08/19/2025 7:14:43 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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“ it spends like a drunken sailor on liberty weekend”

That’s not a fair comparison. Drunken sailor’s spend their own money.

14 posted on 08/19/2025 7:17:00 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Mastador1

Also, when the Constitution was drafted, the average life expectancy was about half what it is now.

The war for independence was fought, and the Constitution formed as it was originally, because of the Founding Fathers’ awareness of grifters in politics.


15 posted on 08/19/2025 7:18:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Gnome1949

The states’ governments were supposed to handle the matters of morality and punishment for crime, not the federal government, either way. The federal government was primarily for national defense.


16 posted on 08/19/2025 7:20:45 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Starman417

Apportionment should never have changed. Count only citizens and adults and one rep per 30k. Yes, that would be a large number but it also would be more direct representation.

Also, the founders never conceived of plea bargaining, of being charged with hundreds of charges to be plead down with the threat of investigating family members and financial ruin defending yourself. They also never considered that we would face greater penalties if we exercised our right to a trial instead of pleading it out. Ask General Flynn about this.


17 posted on 08/19/2025 7:23:38 AM PDT by rey
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To: fwdude
I’m actually not a fan of term limits.

Neither am I.

I've posted many times over the years that I believe the people have the absolute right to vote for whomever they want to represent them in the House of Representatives for however long they want those people to represent them.

I also believe that the state legislatures have the absolute right to select whomever they want to represent the state in the Senate for however many terms they want those people to represent the state.

I finally believe that the people have the absolute right to vote for whomever they want to represent them in their state legislatures, and consider whom they select for the Senate as a consideration when voting. If they don't like their Senator, they can vote for someone else for the state legislature.

The problem was that the 17th amendment broke the federalism between the states and the federal government. Once the legislatures no longer selected their Senators, the people no longer had that incentive when choosing their state legislators. This newly disinterested state voter also began to share that apathy with voting for their House representatives, too.

An alert and aware voter would have paid more attention if the direct line between their local vote and their federal vote had been maintained.

-PJ

18 posted on 08/19/2025 7:24:47 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Starman417

Article IV, Section 4 is your control over deficit spending as it GUARANTEES to the states a “Republican” form of government by the Federal branch. This means that we the people exert OUR will upon the means we are governed through those WE elect to represent OUR interest. Someone not yet born is denied this guarantee when THEIR money is being spent WITHOUT THEIR ability to have THEIR intent represented. Passing OUR debt to them is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.


19 posted on 08/19/2025 7:24:59 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Political Junkie Too
I also believe that the state legislatures have the absolute right to select whomever they want to represent the state in the Senate for however many terms they want those people to represent the state.

Amen.

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.

20 posted on 08/19/2025 7:27:31 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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