Posted on 08/03/2025 5:35:16 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
“They weren’t designed under the direction of the Biden Girls.”
No they were designed by the Lockheed,Raytheon,Oshkosh Defense, BAE Systems gang. While they love nosing up to the Fed feeding trough they do put out some mean weapons systems. These guys are the core of the MIC complex
I tend to think a dune buggy-like vehicle (light weight, low profile) (with armor protection for the driver and a gas tank off the rear end) might be best.
AI image selection goggles might be worn. Visual spectrum images of the path ahead would normally be shown. If a possible target is seen, the AI would rotate a gun for possible target take out. When the gun is positioned, an image of the target would appear before one eye.
Firing might be voice/steering wheel controlled.
SKIP (or secondary hand finger pressing) - skip over AI selected (primary) target
Single target:
FIRE (or primary hand finger pressing) - take out target
If there are multiple threats, an overview image might be shown.
ALL (or primary hand finger pressing) - take out all targets
FRONT - take out all targets in front
LEFT - take out all target on the left
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RED - take out all targets shown in red
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TANK - send up a rocket that calls in artillery fire to take out the tank (or armored personnel carrier)
NOTE: The rocket would light an LED for a time to indicate direction and then relight the LED to indicate the distance away and then send a source identification code. The smart artillery shell would target the tank on descent.
Nothing but a moron watched the retards in Ukraine and decided that tracks are obsolete. Neither Russia nor Ukraine operates like the 1st Armored Division would under a USAF air supremacy bubble.
They have both sent platoon or company sized elements at most, down roads, with no supporting arms, down roads etc. it’s utterly amateur and a retard with a DGI drone tapes then out From the tree line. Try that with Compass Call or Navy Growlers overheard. Or USAF ISR and CAS, and roaming Apache Longbows.
The happy days of drone operators would be over. Tanks are a thing, and used by a skilled army they are still a huge asset.
I remember reading an article that the Navy tied up many of its transport ships for lack of crews.
It’s all employment and doctrine, not to mention age. They’re using Bradley about how we would, and thus success. They aren’t using the M1s as we would, because they lack air superiority and other combined arms force implementations. Also, those M1s don’t have have Chabum armor and are at least 3 revs back.
If they are smart they will use.
Half the weight of a diesel of same output, more efficient and natively burns JP8. Flat pack and low center of gravity. Put both the engine and the pack down low so it’s hard to hit from above where the drone hits happen. Having 1000HP on tap and a megawatt class pack means you can have two or three 200kw lasers smacking drones down one after another like CIWS but at light speed and no drone can be hardened to take a 100kw+ infrared laser hit it simply melts a hole through something important every time and in a second or less time at that. Same pack can power a rail gun for the main gun top mach 7 to 10 darts or larger mach 5 guided rounds in the 50-70mm class.
Once you have megawatt level power on tap things get interesting for the MIC guys.
Any shortage is mainly Bush's fault for thinking we'd never face a near-peer enemy again and failing to provide adequately for depleting or mothballing our Cold War stockpiles.
BOLO MK 1.
Lack of crews is one thing, having to run the gauntlet in waters where your enemy has radar sat birds up and optical targeting birds too while flinging mach 20 maneuvering antiship warheads at you by the hundreds MIRV/MARV style is something else. SM3+SM6 is going to struggle in such a battle and it only takes one to single a capital ship with those kinds of weapons.
This says nothing of if they use tactical nukes with nanosecond salvage fuses so when an SM3 connects it sets off the nuke blinding the radars and the other interceptors to anything behind the first detonation. It’s called beat down each time you connect the blast lowers the beat down zone till it’s right on top of your fleet and the last ones get through. Nanosecond fiber optic light speed fuses set of the nanosecond timeframe nuke before the millisecond speed shockwave of interceptor impact destroyed the physics package. This tech was classified until the 1990s China for sure has it they stole it from the Russians and probably us too.
So in a real all out war ships are just expensive targets only subs and aircraft are even in play once the big balloon goes up.
Hard shell finish...Turtle Wax?
Turbine/electric would still be a hybrid drive, just as adaptive, and weigh a LOT less. It wouldn't need a bank of batteries.
I love this site except for the troglodyte attitude on military equipment. 1) The hybrid system is a very good idea for tanks because of the very large amounts fuel tanks use. It is good for logistics and saves money. Any sales pitch about the environment is strictly trying to help get it past environmental wackos in congress or congress members beholden to environmental wackos. 2)Drones, the little helicopter kind, are mostly used to finish off an already crippled tank. When they aren’t, there have been very bad tank tactics used on both sides making tanks vulnerable to drones. You know what is easier to kill then tanks? Drones. Hell, jamming kills them. Tanks are a lot harder to kill with infantry support that kill drones. 3) Whoever brought up the A-10 Warthog, just stop. It is a giant target that divebombs the enemy and are sitting ducks for anything with anti-air missiles. Again, tanks work as part of the greater force. 4) Troglodyte is a tease, you are fine people.
The death of tanks, “IF” they are to die, are going to come from other fighting vehicles or the much bigger, expensive, and powerfuk drones, UAVs like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie In the grand scheme of things, cheap at 4 million and can carry anti-air and anti-ground munition.
I love this site except for the troglodyte attitude on military equipment. 1) The hybrid system is a very good idea for tanks because of the very large amounts fuel tanks use. It is good for logistics and saves money. Any sales pitch about the environment is strictly trying to help get it past environmental wackos in congress or congress members beholden to environmental wackos. 2)Drones, the little helicopter kind, are mostly used to finish off an already crippled tank. When they aren’t, there have been very bad tank tactics used on both sides making tanks vulnerable to drones. You know what is easier to kill then tanks? Drones. Hell, jamming kills them. Tanks are a lot harder to kill with infantry support that kill drones. 3) Whoever brought up the A-10 Warthog, just stop. It is a giant target that divebombs the enemy and are sitting ducks for anything with anti-air missiles. Again, tanks work as part of the greater force. 4) Troglodyte is a tease, you are fine people.
The death of tanks, “IF” they are to die, are going to come from other fighting vehicles or the much bigger, expensive, and powerful drones, UAVs like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie In the grand scheme of things, cheap at 4 million and can carry anti-air and anti-ground munition.
Q. What are the drawbacks of ceramic body armor plates?
A. The main drawbacks of ceramic plates include their fragility compared to steel plates and their higher cost. Ceramic plates are more prone to breakage and cracking, which can compromise their ability to protect against ballistic threats.
My buddy kid Nick is a growler tech on the Ford. He speaks highly of the abilities of that aircraft.
That said the USA is going to need hard kill and hit to kill not just soft kill on drone and drone swarms.
The Russians have been jamming GPS and datalinks so the UKEs have been using fiber optic guided drones with some having 40+km long fiber tails they cannot be jammed and are immune to GPS jamming too. With miniaturized cameras and fiber optic links the GPU for the AI targeting is at the launcher not on the drone with something like Starlink the GPU cluster doesn’t even need to be in theater it can be on the other side of the planet you just send the video stream over the fiber up the Starlink and the return steam is just simple fly to this point commands then boom. I saw a fiber reel with 100km of fiber it was the size of a coke can it’s fiber is so thin it’s almost invisible. Of course if you have phased array mini antennas like starlink mini ground jammers have no effect those antennas null out any signal not directly in their beam and that’s pointed up to a bird moving at 7+km per second across the sky no way to keep a jammer in that beam for long given the fast sky track of a Starlink class bird. It is little wonder the chicoms have not one but three starlink class systems planed with three different launchers and national level manufactures they plan 30000+ birds too. You can bet those will also host imaging, radar and IR targeting payloads. Real-time SAR,IR and low light VIS globally with half a dozen birds over every spot on earth. The USA is doing the same thing with Starshield monkey see monkey do.
So drones are here to stay direct energy light speed weapons is the way to smack them down and we are going to have to put that on every platform we want to survive down to the APC level and have crew served set ups to put a protective bubble around CPs, LZs and fire bases.
WIKI
Very large or sustained smoke screens are produced by a smoke generator. This machine heats a volatile material (typically oil or an oil based mixture) to evaporate it, then mixes the vapor with cool external air at a controlled rate so it condenses to a mist with a controlled droplet size. Cruder designs simply boiled waste oil over a heater, while more sophisticated ones sprayed a specially formulated oily composition (”fog oil”) through nozzles onto a heated plate. Choice of a suitable oil, and careful control of cooling rate, can produce droplet sizes close to the ideal size for Mie scattering of visible light. This produces a very effective obscuration per weight of material used. This screen can then be sustained as long as the generator is supplied with oil, and—especially if a number of generators are used—the screen can build up to a considerable size. One 50 gallon drum of fog oil can obscure 60 miles (97 km) of land in 15 minutes.
Many armoured fighting vehicles can create smoke screens in a similar way, generally by injecting diesel fuel onto the hot exhaust.
The proliferation of thermal imaging FLIR systems on the battlefields necessitates the use of obscurant smokes that are effectively opaque in the infrared part of electromagnetic spectrum. This kind of obscurant smoke is sometimes referred to as “Visual and Infrared Screening Smoke” (VIRSS).[3] To achieve this, the particle size and composition of the smokes has to be adjusted. One of the approaches is using an aerosol of burning red phosphorus particles and aluminium-coated glass fibers; the infrared emissions of such smoke curtains hides the weaker emissions of colder objects behind it, but the effect is only short-lived. Carbon (most often graphite) particles present in the smokes can also serve to absorb the beams of laser designators. Yet another possibility is a water fog sprayed around the vehicle; the presence of large droplets absorbs in infrared band and additionally serves as a countermeasure against radars in 94 GHz band. Other materials used as visible/infrared obscurants are micro-pulverized flakes of brass or graphite, particles of titanium dioxide, or terephthalic acid.
Older systems for production of infrared smoke work as generators of aerosol of dust with controlled particle size. Most contemporary vehicle-mounted systems use this approach. However, the aerosol stays airborne only for a short time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_screen
See if any of these benefits will sound good to tankers.
1.—Extended Silent Watch
Surveillance missions with minimal heat and noise signature
This allows vehicles to remain in silent watch missions for longer, with a much reduced thermal and noise signature.
2.—Escape boost
Instant response time with escape boost
This allows for the vessel to move swiftly and effectively, without the need for the main diesel engine to be started.
3.— Sprint Boost
Sprint boost for high-speed maneuvers
A fundamental principle of military strategy is to vacate open terrain as quickly as possible in favor of a more defensible position, especially under enemy fire.
Electric drives offer an additional advantage in this context, as they can be overpowered for a period of time, thereby providing an additional acceleration.
4.—Silent maneuvering
Lower heat and emissions profile in sensitive situations
low-profile movement is particularly suited to covert operations, where reduced detection is crucial to mission success.
5.—Fuel Efficiency
Optimized fuel efficiency to improve operating range, costs and emissions
Operational modes as silent watch and silent maneuvering result in a notable reduction in fuel demand for a tank
6.—Power Generation in the field
Modern vehicles power internal and external high-end auxiliary systems
Whether for operating additional sensors, UGV/UAVs, active protection systems or enhanced C4ISR systems, the demand for more electrical power is increasing.
Power can also be “off-boarded” from the vehicle to help power other systems such as HQs, field hospitals or engineering facilities.
You don’t even need a drone that big. The USA TOW-2B warhead weighs 6.14kg that warhead will take out any main battle tank on earth including an Abrams from above. A drone to mount and carry that 6kg in a top down 500mph dive can be launched from the back of a crappy Toyota Hilux technical 100km away via fiber optic guided jam proof flight control.
The battle between drone and armor will always be won by drone you have to kill the drone before it kills you. Hard kill or hit to kill. With optical fiber and optical switches you can EMP proof a drone from high-powered microwave weapons the soft kill kind. You cannot harden a drone to 100+ kw of focused IR light that instantly heats things to plasma. Even mirrors are no good the very best mirror is only 98% reflective a high power laser don’t care about mirrors , dielectric mirrors used in lasers themselves don’t land well to curved surfaces nor flight loads and any dust or moisture ruins them. A mirrored drone is just a sparkly target easy to see and kill.
They removed the M1’s DU armor before sending to UKR. Basically fancy M60s.
Most of them were maneuver losses or land mines.
“The happy days of drone operators would be over”
Fiber optic drones might be taken out by say a mortar with shell that blows apart a few hundred feet in the air and sends out two weights parallel to the front line that draw out a cable.
As the weights and cable fall, they would drag down any fiber optic cable drone whose fiber they fall down on.
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