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To: CDR Kerchner
Worthless point, even in 2008. Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen. This made Obama a native born American even if he was born on Mars.

Focus on things that can actually be fixed. Get rid of anchor babies born of illegal aliens and also legal aliens (what we used to call "birth tourism").

8 posted on 07/17/2025 10:20:37 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

That and She was not with Barak Sr at the time of his birth. She moved to Washington State in that same month


13 posted on 07/17/2025 10:25:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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To: Tell It Right

(Worthless point, even in 2008. Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen. This made Obama a native born American even if he was born on Mars.)

Wrong!

Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5, the presidential qualification clause, calls for a natural born Citizen to be Commander in Chief, not a native born Citizen. At the time of Obama’s birth,his alleged mother was too young to confer US citizenship to Barack. His alleged father Barack Sr., was a British Subject this confering his status to his son. That made Jr a British Subject himself, something the founders never wanted as a president.


14 posted on 07/17/2025 10:26:49 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. Onw!as a cylindrical object)
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To: Tell It Right
Worthless point, even in 2008. Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen. This made Obama a native born American even if he was born on Mars.

This is absolutely incorrect. Women didn't gain the right to transfer citizenship until the Cable act of 1922. In 1787 (when the requirement was written) *ONLY* a Father could make a US citizen.

In fact, the naturalization act of 1794 specifies the FATHER as being required to be a citizen to make the child a citizen.

And all of this ignores the fact that we don't even know for sure where Obama was born. The evidence supports the theory that he was born in Canada, and if that is the case, Stanley Ann Dunham could not impart citizenship to him at all.

The Naturalization act of 1952 (which is the one he would fall under) doesn't allow someone as young as Stanley Ann Dunham to transfer citizenship if he was born outside the country.

18 posted on 07/17/2025 10:33:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Tell It Right

Under the birthright citizen laws in effect when Obama was born his mother was not old enough to pass along her U.S. Citizenship to Obama since Obama’s father was a foreign national.


24 posted on 07/17/2025 10:39:08 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner ( retired military officer, natural law, Vattel, presidential, eligibility, natural born Citizen )
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To: Tell It Right

Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen. This made Obama a native born American even if he was born on Mars.

incorrect his mother did not qualify to pass us citizen ship she lacked sufficient presence in the usa


41 posted on 07/17/2025 10:56:57 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Tell It Right

that is not correct.
Mama was not of age to confer USA citizenship on a child.
the alleged Papa was a British subject and thus could not confer USA citizenship on a child.

Terminology is important too.
Native born is NOT a constitutional term.
Natural Born Citizen, the constitutional standard, is not the same thing.

All that, plus the absence of a legitimate American birth certificate, the existence of an apparently legit Kenyan birth certificate, plus his family in Kenya repeated stating he was born there..........

plus Pelousy faking the qualification filing for his supposed “eligibility”

plus his use of a stolen SS Number

plus his admission to USA college as a “foreign student”

plus his “administratively lost” draft file (which probably never existed in the first place)

plus nobody knew him at his college

take any one of the above and dismiss or somehow disprove all the rest and he’s still very problematical

but “native born” is NOT the constitutional standard. He could have been born on Abe Lincoln’s lap at the National Monument in WashedUpDC and still be ineligible for POTUS.

cheers,

cheers,


47 posted on 07/17/2025 11:05:43 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Tell It Right

Although Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen by birth, if Obama wasn’t born in the U.S., his mother was too young to pass on U.S. citizenship to her offspring.


76 posted on 07/17/2025 1:29:10 PM PDT by batazoid (Natural born citizen)
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To: Tell It Right

NATIVE BORN——BUT NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZEN-—WHICH PRESIDENTS MUST BE.

Article 2

SECTION 1

Clause 5 CONSTITUTION


85 posted on 07/17/2025 2:03:02 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Tell It Right
Worthless point, even in 2008. Obama's mother was a U.S. citizen.

Right, Barry Obama was born a dual citizen. He's an American citizen because his mother was an American citizen. Where he was born doesn't change that even if Kenya recognizes him as its citizen too.
104 posted on 07/17/2025 2:42:10 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Tell It Right

Actually, she was not 18 years old, so Obama was not a NBC.


118 posted on 07/17/2025 6:31:31 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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