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Does the "big, beautiful bill" eliminate taxes on Social Security?
CBS News ^ | July 07, 2025 | Mary Cunningham

Posted on 07/07/2025 10:59:02 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 07/07/2025 10:59:02 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Will it go back to BJ’s time?


2 posted on 07/07/2025 11:01:32 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If it did, the re would be a judge somewhere to declare it unconstitutional!...................


3 posted on 07/07/2025 11:03:39 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

But why is the social security provision temporary? Was this a rules thing?


4 posted on 07/07/2025 11:04:51 AM PDT by rexthecat
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To: Red Badger

As usual the GOP Senate shot itself, and Conservatives, in the foot. While they have repeatedly demonstrated they have no problem spending trillions of dollars we don’t have taking care of any wack job foreight aid package, they absolutely hate having to do anything that actually benefits working Americans


5 posted on 07/07/2025 11:07:02 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: rexthecat
The bill doesn't eliminate taxes on Social Security, but rather introduces a temporary deduction that beneficiaries can claim to lower their federal income tax. Notably, that deduction applies to all of a senior's income — not just to Social Security benefits.
6 posted on 07/07/2025 11:07:07 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

No, it does nothing.

Nor does the “no tax on tips” nonsense.

I will note that the removal of the tax on suppressors and SBRs destroys the Constitutionality of the law.


7 posted on 07/07/2025 11:07:36 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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“Boosting the amount that you get to write off when you already get to write off everything does not help you at all,” Kogan said. You mean tax deductions only apply to people who pay taxes?


8 posted on 07/07/2025 11:07:37 AM PDT by pas
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I think the no tax on tips is also temporary, I think it expires in 2028.

A couple of reasons for these provisions, get votes from RINO Republicans and to make it a campaign issue, who in 2028 is going to pledge to end no tax on tips and raise taxes on social security two taxes that overwhelmingly favor the middle and working-class voter.


9 posted on 07/07/2025 11:08:21 AM PDT by srmanuel
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"..."Virtually all Americans want their Social Security benefits to be preserved and are willing to do what it takes to ensure the program continues to provide meaningful support for future generations," said AARP Chief Public Policy Officer Deb Whitman in a statement after the survey was released..."

Could have fooled me.

There are people in and out of government who are not in the least bit interested in preserving Social Security benefits, as they so freely disburse them to people who are not eligible or deserving in any way, thereby running it down far more quickly than anything a tax break would do.

10 posted on 07/07/2025 11:08:41 AM PDT by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Red Badger

This is how you ruin a legacy.

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1942263123911794915


11 posted on 07/07/2025 11:10:01 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Red Badger
No.
I mean, Yes!
I mean ... well ... "kind-a, sort-a ... maybe, perhaps ... for some but not all ... it depends ..."
12 posted on 07/07/2025 11:10:25 AM PDT by glennaro (2025: The year of America's rebirth as a Great (and Free) Republic)
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So, effectively the “Hyde anendment” blocked any meaningful social security tax relief — despite the campaign promises to remove taxes on pension incomes and distributions.

I am not a political expert. But it seems to me that the budget bill was the first real chance of removing taxes from retirement
Pensions like social security.

A increasing number of states don’t tax retirement. How can we get the (usually much greater burden of) federal taxes off retirees, too?


13 posted on 07/07/2025 11:10:45 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Red Badger

President Regan instated taxes on SS. There were none prior.


14 posted on 07/07/2025 11:11:14 AM PDT by delta7
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I assume if you claim standard deduction it does nothing


15 posted on 07/07/2025 11:12:16 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger

> What the bill does do is provide a temporary tax deduction of up to $6,000 for seniors aged 65 and older. <

They could have gone for a tax deduction or a tax credit here. Evidently it’s a deduction, which is by far the less favorable of the two. 🙁

A tax deduction reduces your taxable income.
A tax credit reduces the amount of tax you owe, dollar for dollar.

(If I’ve got this wrong, someone please correct me.)


16 posted on 07/07/2025 11:13:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: delta7

Congress imposed it. Reagan signed it into law.
Biden was a driving force behind it.


17 posted on 07/07/2025 11:14:32 AM PDT by Reily
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“But why is the social security provision temporary? Was this a rules thing?”

Yes. The reconciliation bill has to stay withing the budget window.


18 posted on 07/07/2025 11:15:24 AM PDT by TexasGator ('i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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To: MeanWestTexan

The ‘Byrd rule’ (yes, Joe’s demoKKKrat pal) prevented policy, only budget considerations from the BBB, so they say.
Yeah, now the NRA, GOA and conservative patriots everywhere are licking our chops over removing them from the NFA,
if not removing the NFA itself with original legislation.
Why not? Just resign it to the dustbin of bad ideas. Removing the tax was a half-measure.


19 posted on 07/07/2025 11:15:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: V_TWIN

1 1.”I assume if you claim standard deduction it does nothing”

Wrong assumption.


20 posted on 07/07/2025 11:16:46 AM PDT by TexasGator ('i.. logo About Issues Projects Products Connect Subscribe Invest June 19, 2025 | Insight '1-1111 -)
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