[MinorityRepublican]

Bottom line: Russia is winning.

Capturing 20% of Ukraine while having their navy and air force destroyed.

No one expected Ukraine to hold off the Russians.

If you call this winning...

[The Louiswu]

No one expected Ukraine to hold off the Russians.

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Ukraine didn't do this alone, not at all. If it weren't for donations of vehicles, ammunition, logistical support and I suspect, direct assistance by military "advisors", surveillance and intel, Ukraine would be in a lot worse position that it is now.

Never forget that Joe Biden's staff committed the US and other nations to a protracted proxy war with Russia so that they could profit off the military sales and money laundering.

It's time to wrap up the US involvement in this war and get on to the business of peace in whatever form it will take.

[SaxxonWoods]

Russia took 450 square kilometers of land in May. The buffer building continues.

[NorseViking]

I think you are confusing it with the Vietnam War.

[GenXPolymath]

“No one expected Ukraine to hold off the Russians.”

The ukes are not holding off the Russians. The USA and NATO in a proxy war are holding off the Russians. At least get it right. If the USA withdraws they crumble in days if not hours.

[dforest]

Ukraine won a battle, That is it so far.

[AAABEST]

No one expected Ukraine to hold off the Russians.

lol.. except nearly every ranting Zeeper mow-mow and clown encountered in the media, DC and here. They're on this very thread contradicting you as I type.

[DownInFlames]

But the world will see a weakened Russia. Ukraine is just the beginning. China will finish off Russia.

[taxcontrol]

I believe that Ukraine has so significantly damaged the Russian military that Russia is no longer a real threat to NATO.

[Pikachu_Dad]

I believe the word you are looking for is ‘quagmire’ !

The Ukraine war v the Afghan war for the Russians:

“During the Soviet-Afghan War, approximately 15,000 Soviet soldiers were killed and around 35,000 were wounded. The conflict lasted from December 1979 to February 1989, resulting in significant casualties and losses for the Soviet military.”

“As of early June 2025, Russian military losses in Ukraine are estimated to be around 106,745 soldiers killed, with some estimates suggesting the true number could be as high as 237,211. The year 2024 was particularly deadly, with at least 45,287 Russian soldiers reported killed.”