Posted on 04/17/2025 6:18:07 AM PDT by karpov
Apparently, some 75 percent of U.S. scientists are planning to emigrate to Canada and Europe “in light of President Donald Trump’s sweeping changes to federal science policy.” Is this a joke or just a bad poll? According to my omniscient AI “Copilot,” the U.S. spends 3.4 percent of GDP on science and Canada only 1.8 percent. Is Canada really a better deal for scientists?
Of course, we need to know more details. What kind of science do these two nations favor? Who are those scientists who are threatening to leave? How bad for science are the Trump policies?
How bad? Well, “National Institutes of Health has terminated scores of research grants that ‘no longer effectuate agency priorities’,” according to the letters researchers have received. The agency also deemed some of the grants “antithetical to the scientific inquiry.”
Is that legitimate? Perhaps a third of federal funding seems to go not to actual science but to projects that are frankly political. A couple of years ago, for example, two ladies at Duke University got a $9.9-million grant entitled (in part) “A Collective Impact Approach to Broadening Participation in Computing,” basically an effort to get more women into computer science. This was part of a much larger NSF program along similar lines. The awarded amount could have funded a dozen or more of the typical single-investigator research grants for which NSF was once famous and for which the hit rate now hovers at around 15 percent.
I was puzzled when I saw that news. Why are more women needed in CS? Is there currently discrimination against women in science? This seems unlikely, given that women dominate most of the major scientific societies. See, for example the American Institute of Biological Sciences or even the National Academy of Sciences.
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“75 percent of U.S. scientists are planning to emigrate to Canada and Europe”
LOL...and 0.075 percent will follow through on their lame threat. These people sure blow it out their arseholes all the time.
“...some 75 percent of U.S. scientists are planning to emigrate to Canada and Europe....”
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Oh no! Scientific advancement is gonna stop! Nooooooo!
Fake Science funded by the US gov’t has become the norm.
Good. They can sucker other countries for big $’s and little results.
This is a double edge sword, Yes we need legitimate ongoing scientific research into any number of fields, but NO we don’t need lackluster, mediocre panhandlers who just belly up to the money bucket and sit around and mentally masturbate over their eight page thesis on why wheels are round.
And it has to stop now.
If indeed Trump is able to recover manufacturing back onto US soil, it will attract engineering and research in the hard sciences.
The science of Dr Fouchy and his homies is best sent to China and Cuba.
Is Trump destroying American Lysenkoism? YES!
Lysenkoism was a mid-20th century Soviet political campaign and pseudoscientific concept that rejected genetics and science-based agriculture. It was led by Soviet biologist Trofim Lysenko (1898–1976) and supported by Communist Party elites, including Stalin.
Research happened before the US government funded it.
It still will. Grad students need to publish—just not at my expense.
Of course it is.
Whenever government money becomes the dominant purchaser of anything that thing becomes political.
After government started paying for non-defense research politics started deciding what research got funded.
Without government funding of research we would not have the Global Warming scam.
Scientists think they are royalty.
The only way to convince them they are not is to fire them.
As Eric Weinstein says, “Science is dead.” It died the moment it became politicized.
You can’t seek evidence for a predetermined belief and claim to be seeking truth. The former is deliberate confirmation bias; the latter is science.
“Scientists think they are royalty.
The only way to convince them they are not is to fire them.”
Th3n who will develope the supercomputers?
“Supercomputers will create new branches of mathematics that virtually no human will understand but will lead to real technological breakthroughs.”
My post was twenty five years old—I think we have (or will soon have) the supercomputers now even though they call it AGI these days.
Lol.
The taxpayers have been funding idiot projects like shrimp on treadmills for years. In recent years, money has been doled out for any “research” that has the right woke spin. It used to be “ climate change” was the ticket to grant money, now anything to do with gender bending is the new key to federal research dollars. I also blame academia for giving such bogus research credibility in supposedly peer reviewed published journal articles. There used to be standards for actual scholarship, but those are long gone.
That explains a lot.
Let the phony junk science fools migrate to Canada. They can add to the confusion there.
"Apparently, some 75 percent of U.S. scientists are planning to emigrate to Canada and Europe “in light of President Donald Trump’s sweeping changes to federal science funding policy .”"
There! Fixed it.
Scientific support for military readiness aside, follow the money scientists evidently didn't learn in grade school that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the unconstitutionally big federal government the specific power to tax and spend in the name of scientific research.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
The congressional record shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as follows.
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
Scientists should consider supporting putting a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by putting a stop to Congress's abuse of its 16th Amendment powers (direct taxes) by repealing that amendment so that the states can find new revenues to hire them to run their science projects.
The 16th Amendment is the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for organized crime and needs to be repealed along with the 17th Amendment, popular voting for federal senators.
We'll call the repeal amendment Trump's Boston Tea Party II Amendment.
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