Posted on 01/21/2025 8:01:33 AM PST by Starman417
Anyone reading this knows about the disgusting actions forwarded for signature by the various Obama staffers given to a senile old man on his way out the door. There might be a simple way to reverse all of them, or at least slap a legal injunction against these attempts to thwart what used to be a peaceful transition of power when a new President is elected in America. First off, American Greatness' Richard Truesdell and Keith Lehmann bring up an interesting point. At the time they wrote this post this morning's round of pardons had not yet been signed:
And what if a movement to void these pardons (as well as just about anything Biden signed in the past few years) emerges, citing Biden’s obvious infirmity and inability to cognitively understand what he was signing? Could these pardons, commutations, and clemencies be rendered invalid? Could the criminal activities of this rogue’s gallery actually be prosecuted, preemptive pardons notwithstanding?I had had a similar thought a few days ago, and this morning two callers to Chris Plante's radio show brought up some other thoughts I had on the topic. Remember roughly a year ago when when Robert Hur, while investigating Biden's* mishandling of classified documents, concluded thatDid the Democrat’s unwillingness to invoke the 25th Amendment years ago provide Trump the ammunition to properly wipe out every single one of these actions by an enfeebled man with late-stage dementia?
We can only dream.
"We have also considered that, at trial, Mr Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory," the report said.Let's take this a step further. Since there is no shortage of public evidence and private testimonials regarding the mental decay of Joey Sponge Brains Crapped Pants*, why not simply decree that based on Hur's conclusion that Biden* did not have the mental capacity to understand any act that he signed during his final year as President, thus rendering anything he signed null and void? Sure, we can give President Daddy Please Don't make Me Shower With You Again* the benefit of the doubt, and he can immediately take a mental fitness test with officials from both parties present. If he doesn't want to do it, no problem. Since Sundown Joe* cannot disprove this damning evidence that he lacked mental capacity to sign any kind of legal documents, any bill or act or order signed by Biden* in the last year is null and void. Now that the lack of mental capacity has been established, it's now only a matter of negotiating how far back we go."Based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom many jurors will want to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him — by then a former president well into his eighties — of a serious felony that requires a mental state of wilfulness."
Does this set a bad precedent? You bet. Could this cause far bigger problems down the road? Absolutely. But like it or not, our country is in a cold Civil War.
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THIS.
Does that hand have six fingers?
A post-term 25th Amendment declaration.
I like it here, but it will certainly be abused in the future.
While I believe in principle everything president cabbage signed should be wiped out since he had no idea what he was signing, I think it would waste political capital and detract from the well planned shock & awe steamroller we are seeing now. Everyone knows he was incompetent all along. Use that, as is being done now, to wipe out what the cat ladies running the WH have done and a lot more in addition.
We have momentum. Use it.
Let’s go back to 2014. That seemed to be the year the Biden family is selecting. It appears something is there that Biden wants hidden.
I’ve been saying this for at least a year, but I’m just happy they are gone.
And besides, President Trump is overturning many of potato heads EO’s. So there’s that.
Sorry, but no.
I have seen what happens when a law is not used in accordance with its intent.
For a prime example, I present to you, the patriot act...
I’m a Realtor. If a buyer or seller is found to not be of sound mind, the contract can be voided.
Whomever it is is committing a fraud against the United States by exercising the powers of the President without the consent of the American people. When Biden turns his back on reporters and walks away without answering their questions, I think it's because he doesn't know what they're talking about because it was stuff done by others using the powers of his office.The 25th amendment is there as a constitutional means to reassign the powers of an incapacitated President, and it requires the consent of the Cabinet. Nowhere does it let a Cabinet member assume those powers on the President's behalf -- that falls to the Vice President. If an aide is the person who's issuing these last-minute executive orders, or pardons, or medals, then this must be investigated and prosecuted as the coup d'etat that it is.
The only thing I might think could be challenged is whether or not the President actually issued the pardon or was it done by a staffer under the President's name, and the President is unaware or mentally incapacitated enough to not understand what was done.The power doesn't belong to the "office-at-large," it belongs to the person. If the person is not of sound mind and cannot recall the pardon, then perhaps the pardon could be challenged as not coming from the elected President himself?
It would essentially be a fraud committed on the people of the United States, but it would be a long haul to prove it, though.
It can be a potential constitutional crisis.If the President is mentally incapable of carrying out his duties (e.g., issuing pardons), the solution is not to have an unelected staffer issue the pardons in his name. The solution is to invoke the 25th amendment to declare the President unable to carry out the powers and duties of his office, and then let the Acting President issue the pardons.
-PJ
I agree BUT, look at what taking the high road every time has emboldened the Dims to do. Sometimes you have to hit back just to keep bullies from doing worse later.
Hmm. It also can’t decide if it’s a heart, a diamond, a red spade, or something completely new.
It’s obviously not just the pardons, but also the EOs that he signed, and even the Congressional Bills that he signed.
It could get interesting!
He did, and I like this path to overturn his pardons etc.
Every crazy security threatening EO that Biden approved should be completely dusted for DNA to see who handled it.
It doesn’t matter. There is no constitutional way to retroactively apply the 25th amendment to anyone, nor to cite mental incompetence as a means to undo their actions.
What needs to happen in the real world is to amend the Constitution to drastically redefine the pardon power.
The question revolves around whether this would slow down "the resistance" which is right now confined to the closet but cranking up the whisper campaign.
The power to pardon does not rest with the administration or even on the office itself. It is invested in the person of the President. If that person is incapacitated, there is no one with that authority.
Absolutely Trump should challenge every action taken by Biden’s handlers while it was publicly known he was in the throws of dementia.
That IS the problem. It seems that the GOP sets precedents which the Dems go on to abuse later to an unimaginable degree An example is the FISA and other government surveillance abilities which were put in place after 9/11 by GWB, and abused to an unconscionable degree by the Democrats under first Obama, and more stunningly, under Biden.
Exactly.
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