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PEACE NEGOTIATIONS: Everyone Now Agrees Ukraine Will Have To Make Territorial Concessions to Russia – But What Would That Entail? – the Azov Nazis Will Be a Problem
Gateway Pundit ^ | Oct. 8, 2024 | by Paul Serran

Posted on 10/08/2024 8:12:55 PM PDT by Kazan

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1 posted on 10/08/2024 8:12:55 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Of their army, how large is the Azov unit?


2 posted on 10/08/2024 8:18:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kazan

Could have negotiated a land for peace deal in the Spring of 2023, saving at least tens of thousands of lives, but apparently the Biden Harris Administration blocked it.


3 posted on 10/08/2024 8:24:00 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" And I said, "Here I am! Send me." )
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hell, it shouldn’t have never started.
They torpedoed even the Minsk agreements.


4 posted on 10/08/2024 8:28:10 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

thank obama and nuland, and later on the neoCON war cheerleaders


5 posted on 10/08/2024 8:34:54 PM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: Kazan

A non starter. The DC/London Axis thinks they can get a “frozen conflict” ceasefire with a DMZ. Then they flood Ukraine with weapons, give them NATO or NATO lite status, fill their bases with US jets etc.

It’s gonna take more then that to get the Russians to agree on ending their main war aim of no NATO in Ukraine. It would also take a return of stolen Russian gold and currency, repair of Nordstream and ending sanctions.

The proposals NATO, the Brits and DC are floating are a losing side who just wants a breather. It’s no different than the Minsk agreements that were just a ruse. NATO pissed away it’s benefit of the doubt goodwill with the Minsk ruse.


6 posted on 10/08/2024 8:37:08 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: ansel12

As I understand it is formed in separate units.
Each region sort of separate.

Hungary has some concern with them in the regions of the Ukraine where ethnic Hungarians reside.
The Poles even demanded that Ukraine recognize the crimes committed by the Banderites during WW2. The resolution was passed early feb 2022 and signed by the polish leader.

How many are there? Who knows at this point but we can all but be assured the Russians will demand that anyone belonging to AZOV be deemed a international criminal organization.
That will be part of the negotiations


7 posted on 10/08/2024 8:37:46 PM PDT by crz
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To: Kazan

““There is talk behind closed doors of a deal in which Moscow retains de facto control over the roughly one-fifth of Ukraine it has occupied — though Russia’s sovereignty is not recognized — while the rest of the country is allowed to join Nato or given equivalent security guarantees. Under that umbrella, it could rebuild and integrate with the EU, akin to West Germany in the cold war.”

Laughable. “We can’t push you out, so you just sit there and stop attacking. We will not agree that Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk are yours... and everywhere you aren’t becomes NATO. And the sanctions stay on, and we will keep all your cash and no SWIFT or trade”.

Why would a Russian sign that?

This is the childlike mentality of DC and London.


8 posted on 10/08/2024 8:41:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: Kazan

“This may require the inclusion of other major BRICS powers like China as guarantors.”

What could possibly go wrong with that?


9 posted on 10/08/2024 8:44:22 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: DesertRhino

Russia holds ALL..the cards.
Anything they think they can trick Russia into is DOA.
Any trust Russia had at all with these dorks was destroyed long ago


10 posted on 10/08/2024 8:47:20 PM PDT by crz
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To: ansel12

>>>>Of their army, how large is the Azov unit?<<<<

Ask the Vindmans.

I’m sure they know the exact number of Azovs in Ukraine, Russia and Washington.


11 posted on 10/08/2024 8:49:16 PM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: crz

It seems to be in the 100s, in 2022 900, a tiny unit of the army, miniscule, the country is in a full fledged war with 100s of thousands of hardened troops and a lot of combat hardened elite units and Special Ops units, a nation in the midst of a bloody war and I think they can handle any protest from some guys in a single small unit, so what is this writer trying to say?


12 posted on 10/08/2024 8:49:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kazan

All Ukraine had to do was not seek NATO membership.


13 posted on 10/08/2024 8:58:51 PM PDT by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Kazan

Just wait until you get the bill for rebuilding what’s left of Ukraine.


14 posted on 10/08/2024 9:05:40 PM PDT by McGruff (Ask everyone, Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: Kazan

Ukraine is a fake nation consisting of mail order brides. By the end of this year, I hope Ukraine is returned to the bosom of motherland Russia.


15 posted on 10/08/2024 9:11:03 PM PDT by nwrep
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The Neocons are DESPERATE to get their troops into Odessa, in order to keep a toe-hold on the Black Sea. Too bad Russia will make that costly, if the Neocons decide to get ‘cute’.


16 posted on 10/08/2024 9:11:46 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Kazan

what the he11 is “securocratic” ?


17 posted on 10/08/2024 9:16:20 PM PDT by A strike (do people who slow up, speed down?)
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To: Kazan

The Azov Nazis have emphatically informed Z that he will be offed as soon as he starts this negotiated peace nonsense. Of course DC funds these Nazis. Send Nuland to tell the Nazis to not make waves.

She can talk to them, one Nazi to another.


18 posted on 10/08/2024 9:31:17 PM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: BobL

A country of mail order brides?

You say that like it’s a bad thing .


19 posted on 10/08/2024 9:51:49 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1

It was the post above him but....hey....nobody ever posts the link, LOL


20 posted on 10/08/2024 9:57:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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