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To: shortstop

I watched with a friend. My friend thought Vance missed too many chances to make a strong point, & was really unhappy with his performance. I thought it was pretty much a lackluster debate - no clear winner. Interesting to see the variety of opinions about it.


5 posted on 10/02/2024 7:08:45 AM PDT by Twotone ( )
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To: Twotone

I agree with you and your friend.


11 posted on 10/02/2024 7:14:43 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Twotone
“My friend thought Vance missed too many chances to make a strong point . . .”

I wanted Vance to clobber that man but he didn't (clobber him enough).

However, Vance did what he set out to do and did so magnificently. Vance now towers over Kamala’s choice; no comparison on issues, honesty, and intellect.

14 posted on 10/02/2024 7:16:49 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Twotone

TwoTones,
I listened to the radio version. I thought it was fairly lackluster and slightly in Vance’s favor. Walz had a few really poor moments which tip the balance.

BUT, women generally are not as impressed with logical, practical and factual points as they are by the emotional sensitive arguments. Walz certainly is emotional and sensitive. Vance made his points without seeming insensitive. AND, it is the “undecided” female block that will determine the outcome at this point.


20 posted on 10/02/2024 7:24:41 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Twotone

I agree that Vance missed many opportunities against Walz. I think someone, maybe his wife, told him to be likeable to win the female vote. So, he let Walz spew one lie after another and didn’t try to correct the record or reveal how often he lies. Vance was bending over backwards to be polite and civil. I was really disappointed in his performance. I’m going to bet Trump was too.

When Walz constantly referred to the wonderful job he’s doing in Minnesota, why didn’t Vance come back with facts about the numerous failures including the draconian mask mandates, the hotline so you can rat on neighbors violating Walz’s COVID lockdowns, the failure to respond to the violence as Minneapolis was allowed to burn for four nights?

Walz said he learned a lot about governing during the time he spent in China. Vance should have said, What? I would think you would have learned how not to govern. What do you admire about the Chinese Communists, Walz? Why have you spent so much time there hobnobbing with Party bosses?

I would suggest someone should investigate Walz’s claim his 17-year-old son witnessed a school shooting. I think it’s a lie. He’s never mentioned it before, and it certainly would be a Harris-Walz talking point against Republicans and would hype the Rats gun control stance if it were true. Trump’s people should look into this asap. If Walz is lying, it’s a nail in his coffin.


48 posted on 10/02/2024 9:18:47 AM PDT by PA Presbyterian (Never Surrender!)
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