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To: george76

Covid was not a fair test. During that time, many people complied only because if they had not, they could have lost their jobs or career choices, or access to various public buildings. Their kids may have been refused enrollment in certain schools or activities.

Many people were refused surgery, even organ transplants if they refused the shot.
Back then, there was no legal recourse for that individual, unless you could afford an attorney to defend your remaining rights. This Covid compliance was not a matter of robotic obedience, at least not in each case.


4 posted on 09/07/2024 6:38:28 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

Right you are. The governments mandated that businesses institute rules that we peons had to obey, or there would be consequences.


8 posted on 09/07/2024 6:46:16 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: lee martell

That was part of the test. How many would be willingly obedient and how many would have to be threatened with losing their jobs and livelihoods, not being able to enter stores to buy food etc. if they refused the jabs, the masks, the 6 foot distances.

The whole thing was so sick. Nothing has ever recovered.


14 posted on 09/07/2024 7:01:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: lee martell

Even if one could find an attorney to fight the Covid mandates, too many tyrannical judges were in place and happily enforced the mandates even though doing so denied due process and had no basis in law, but were simply edicts from elected officials and bureaucrats.

Look at the trashing of constitutional rights to speedy trial, due process, and free speech for the January 6 defendants. The withholding of evidence against them with the blessing of the judge. The same for Trump. He is under gag order pertaining to at least one of the cases against him.

With the widespread corruption in the legal system it is difficult to envision things will be any different during the next “crisis”. The day is coming when a liberal majority Supreme Court approves onerous penalties on “hate” speech, gives federal judges and law enforcement the discretion to suspend a “suspect’s” civil liberties for public safety, determines trail by administrative panel can substitute for a jury trial, and approves draconian restrictions on firearm ownership and use.

The day is also coming when the state redistributes personal property and assets on the whim of bureaucrats. The courts already allow civil asset forfeiture. The Supreme Court’s Kelo decision allows private property to be taken and given to other private entities “for the public good”. Compensation for that property taken is what the state determines is appropriate. Certainly leftist social activists, politicians, and bureaucrats are plotting to gain the authority to take private property, without compensation, and redistributed it how they see fit. This is the end game for politicians such as Kamala Harris who constantly preach “equity”. Seizure and redistribution of private property is the end game of the equity advocates.


17 posted on 09/07/2024 7:07:51 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: lee martell

People had a choice. My workplace did the smart thing. They took a sample poll of the people to see what they would do if they were too mandated it. They backed off when they found out there were too many that would quit. Me included. I would have no problem quitting a 38 year job.


22 posted on 09/07/2024 7:14:12 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Erectionists Listless Vessel )
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To: lee martell
Covid was not a fair test. During that time, many people complied...

The exact point of the article. Compliance was the test, not Covid.

24 posted on 09/07/2024 7:20:08 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lee martell

Good point.


29 posted on 09/07/2024 7:31:34 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: lee martell

duress


32 posted on 09/07/2024 7:34:32 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: lee martell

“Covid compliance was not a matter of robotic obedience, at least not in each case.”

They don’t need robotic obedience—they just need obedience.


55 posted on 09/07/2024 8:35:46 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: lee martell

I got fired from my job for refusing both jab and mask.


63 posted on 09/07/2024 9:12:22 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (A government of the government, by the government, for the government)
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To: lee martell

Hmmm...yeah I don’t feel sorry for those who did not bother to stand up to an unnecessary forced medical intervention. If more had join the ranks of refusers, the mandates would have dropped even sooner.

The Founders gave up everything for a free republic, but conservatives & Christians can’t even forego Billy little league games to same him from potentially life-altering consequences?

I have developed a degree of contempt for those who refused to stand up for their own freedoms and liberties. We deserve the Venezuelan gangs because we don’t have the testosterone let alone testicles to do anything about it.

What was that quote about those that give up liberty for temporary security? They deserve neither.

I Admin a freedom group on FB and over 85% of the membership is women. The men can’t be bothered to lift a finger.


84 posted on 09/07/2024 12:47:46 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Cv19 vaccines are Phase 2 of the CCP bioweapon)
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