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What Could Go Wrong? It's Possible US Navy Will Escort Philippine Ships in South China Sea
Red State ^ | 08/31/2024 | Ward Clark

Posted on 08/31/2024 7:28:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 08/31/2024 7:28:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Philippines rejected America and cozied up to the Chinese Communists. Now they see who they were jumping into bed with.

I lived in the Philippines as a military dependent for several years back in the late Sixties into the Seventies, and I really liked the country and its inhabitants. It saddened me greatly to see the falling out we had.

Hate to see it coming to this.


2 posted on 08/31/2024 7:36:41 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A lot of our ships in the Med are failing and cannot get back to the USA.

The Chinese are rapidly expanding their Navy and adding lots of brand new ships.

Biden’s handlers (Obama) have a great plan here.


3 posted on 08/31/2024 7:37:49 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowd)
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To: SeekAndFind

On many levels the China/Philippines clash is quite different from the Russia/Ukraine one. Still, I’m not sure just what the proper American response should be.

But there’s one thing I’m quite sure of. Way, way better that Trump call the shots than Biden or Harris.


4 posted on 08/31/2024 7:42:43 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"The Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy (yes, that's really what they call it)"

"Slavery is freedom"--George Orwell.
5 posted on 08/31/2024 7:44:48 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing.


6 posted on 08/31/2024 7:47:43 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

We pulled all our carrier groups out of the Pacific theater, China owns the waves over there now


7 posted on 08/31/2024 7:48:39 PM PDT by baclava
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To: baclava

Yeah...no.


8 posted on 08/31/2024 7:50:13 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“ But our ally is butting heads with China rather a lot lately:”

Chicoms attacking Philippines boats in Philippine territory is not “butting heads.”


9 posted on 08/31/2024 7:50:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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I too have spent a lot of time in the PI.

I most remember how the US bases created entire cities based on prostitution, and the resulting destruction of PI society. Drunken revelry and prostitution.

That’s what got us thrown out...there was no other way to end it. It wasn’t all our fault, and it wasn’t all their fault. It evolved over 100 years and finally metastasized into a powerful destructive force.

That said, the PI is of ENORMOUS geo political value. And we have a long history with the people there. I’m glad to see the increase of goodwill and cooperation.

I just hope it doesn’t go back to what it was.


10 posted on 08/31/2024 7:50:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“A lot of our ships in the Med are failing and cannot get back to the USA.”

Source?


11 posted on 08/31/2024 7:51:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: rottndog

No what? We pulled out, our carriers are gone, to send to ME, Google it


12 posted on 08/31/2024 7:53:06 PM PDT by baclava
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Yes, of course. I am well aware of Olongapo and others.

But that is something that is seen all over the world in nearly every country around military bases. It is as timeless as the military.

I am not defending it. That is just how it is.


13 posted on 08/31/2024 7:56:27 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: baclava

We have plenty of assets there. Bird farms aren’t needed.


14 posted on 08/31/2024 8:00:07 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think perhaps you are thinking of the Army-owned vessels that were involved in that stupendously stupid, horrible, politically asinine, and wasteful endeavor involving the floating pier in Gaza?

I have heard those vessels are in poor condition, but I have heard nothing about US Navy vessels that approach that condition.


15 posted on 08/31/2024 8:00:23 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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To: Mariner

Agreed, the PI were a massively missed opportunity for the US all the way back to 1898. Instead of promoting independence, we took “The White Man’s Burden” route.


16 posted on 08/31/2024 8:03:32 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rottndog

That’s the way I see it. If they are going to get us involved with this, a carrier would be a wasteful overkill.

We are going to get into an altercation with Communist China someday, I fear. This is just one of the ways that can happen.

But I also think that given what we saw in the book “Unrestricted Warfare” written by two PLA Colonels that appears to have been accepted as the best path by the CCP, they may also avoid open warfare. They view open warfare with the USA as a chump’s game.

In the book, they describe how it is better to build just enough military to make us bankrupt ourselves out of fear, while weakening or even toppling us by every other non-military means they can bring to bear.


17 posted on 08/31/2024 8:06:32 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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What Could Go Wrong? It's Possible US Navy Will Escort Philippine Ships in South China Sea

What we see from the Ukraine war where inexpensive naval drones reach out and strike targets ~600 miles away, aircraft carriers may be little more than floating coffins.

18 posted on 08/31/2024 8:10:41 PM PDT by fso301
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To: ifinnegan

Exactly.


19 posted on 08/31/2024 8:11:26 PM PDT by Williams (Let's Focus On Electing President Trump)
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To: rlmorel

Duarte is gone. Bongbong Marcos is the new President, and he wants to make amends with the USA, and supports a new alliance. He’s the son of the Ferdinand Marcos and loves America.

I say let’s bring back that old friendship.


20 posted on 08/31/2024 8:12:43 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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