Posted on 08/17/2024 5:59:32 AM PDT by marktwain
(August 15, 2024) — The Cape Coral Police Department hosted a press conference detailing a shooting that resulted in a fatality within the city of Cape Coral near NW 25th Place.
On Tuesday, August 13, 2024, at 10:06 PM, a 9-1-1 call was received that a man had been shot. Officers arrived and found a man, identified as Norbert Mess Junior (DOB 5/24/1969), with gunshot wounds lying in the field next to the street. Officers provided aid. However, he was pronounced deceased on scene at 10:17 PM.
The Violent Crimes Unit was notified, and during the investigation, detectives confirmed that prior to the 9-1-1 call, Norbert Mess and his girlfriend were involved in an argument. The woman called her brother to help her, and he came to the home to try to diffuse the situation. When the brother arrived at the home, Norbert Mess was waiting outside for him with a solid wooden rod and brass knuckles.
The woman’s minor son, who lives at the residence, saw his uncle getting beaten.
To intervene, the son retrieved a firearm. He pointed it in Norbert Mess’ direction to warn him. Norbert Mess saw the firearm pointed at him, and he continued to batter the uncle.
At that point, the son was in fear for his uncle’s life. Multiple shots were fired. Norbert Mess ultimately died from his injuries. The brass knuckles were later recovered on his person.
As part of the investigation, our officers executed search warrants at NW 13th Place and NW 25th Place. All parties involved cooperated with the investigation, and detectives determined that the son shot Norbert Mess in self-defense to protect his mother and uncle from serious bodily injury or death. No charges will be filed.
There was misinformation put out by several different news outlets describing events that were never confirmed by the police department. It is important to keep in perspective that investigations are sensitive and take time. The lack of information does not mean a lack of an investigation. We release information based on the facts that do not change and do not compromise the case.
We understand there are grieving families in this situation. Any loss of life will always create difficult circumstances for those involved. Because this is a domestic violence case, we are not releasing the names or addresses of the others involved.
Norbert was a real Mess. When he saw the gun pointed at him and continued beating the uncle he declared in effect to the son, ‘go ahead, shoot me, I don’t care. Beating to death this guy is more important.’
Brave kid. It’s always mom’s bf.
Where have we heard the name “Mess” before?
Well now Norbert has finally learned self control. He will never do something like this again. Problem solved.
Charges could be filed by the guy’s family, not the government. They have no stake in the matter.
It's often the kid who doesn't survive "mom's new boyfriend"
Illiteracy in our public schools.
Criminal charges are filed only by the government. The guy’s family could try filing a civil wrongful death suit, but would lose.
I would hope you are right but humans are at their absolute dumbest in groups of 12
They can be very dangerous at that number, as well.
I’m going to go nuts and assume that the “girlfriend” and/or her son were quite familiar with beatings by old Norbert. Hope this purge brings them some relief, at least until mom brings home the next vicious stray.
Why would the government file charges?
In this case, they wouldn’t.
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