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1 posted on 08/09/2024 10:34:15 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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First reports 70 on board

Sort of just fell from the sky

https://rumble.com/v5abyk2-a-voepass-airlines-plane-has-crashed-near-so-paulo-brazil.html


2 posted on 08/09/2024 10:34:54 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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Strange engine sounds. Should be a 2X turboprop.


3 posted on 08/09/2024 10:39:21 AM PDT by pfflier
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ATR 72-500

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1821965346821087273?s=19


4 posted on 08/09/2024 10:45:52 AM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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Looks like a flat spin.

Too much weight toward the tail?

Was Rosie O'Donnell sitting back there?

7 posted on 08/09/2024 10:50:21 AM PDT by politicket
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8 posted on 08/09/2024 10:52:08 AM PDT by Angelino97
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seems like pretty much anything should be recoverable from that altitude without a severe mechanical failure.


16 posted on 08/09/2024 11:24:48 AM PDT by xoxox
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Video begins when ATR 72-500 is already in a left rotating flat spin with left wing down. Right engine looks to be operating but port engine appears to be barely rotating. Engine sound is not normal and sounds like one of the engine governors has failed. No high speed turbo prop sound. Appears to be spinning into the failed engine or prop. Need the flight path data. Pilot did not get the nose down fast enough to maintain normal flight after left engine or prop failure?


20 posted on 08/09/2024 11:45:12 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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shift in cargo to the tail???


21 posted on 08/09/2024 11:46:43 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Reminds me of American Eagle years ago...ice?


45 posted on 08/09/2024 3:01:02 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Time to throw them out of the Temple...again)
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Now reports are coming in of icing conditions at 17,000ft. Did their pitot tube ice over and they have false readings of airspeed? Did that add to problems with the wings icing up and icing conditions that overtook the autopilot and cause a high speed stall at cruising altitude? That appears to be the prevalent initial speculation of the cause for the stall and subsequent spin. The ATR has had several crashes due to icing.


53 posted on 08/09/2024 10:28:59 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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