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To: T.B. Yoits

>>No. She was born to two parents who were citizens of foreign countries. This is clarified with children of diplomats and diplomatic staff.

A child of a Hessian soldier fighting colonists would not be considered a natural born citizen because of a map and a compass.
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A map, a compass, and a court. Diplomats are not within US jurisdiction.

A Hessian soldier with no diplomatic immunity is within that jurisdiction — though if fighting colonists there is no US at all at that time and the whole question is moot.

The child born to the Hessian is as much an NBC as would be any other child born when there was no US yet in existence.

It is bizarre this argument persists on FR. If you’re born on US soil to parents who do not have diplomatic immunity, you are born within US jurisdiction on US soil and there is no further discussion warranted.

If the parents are residents of Mars, it does not matter — provided they did not submit Martian diplomatic credentials exempting themselves from US jurisdiction. It does not matter. The child is not responsible for any crimes the parents committed.

Born on US soil in US jurisdiction — Natural Born Citizen.


42 posted on 07/15/2024 7:25:03 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen
It's not about diplomatic immunity.

If Kamala Harris's parents returned to India or Jamaica when she was a child, there was nothing the United States could do to stop them because they were not citizens of the United States.

A Natural Born Citizen is someone born in the United States to two parents who are United States Citizens - which is why Obama's handlers created the fake birth certificate.

44 posted on 07/15/2024 7:36:11 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Owen
It is bizarre this argument persists on FR. If you’re born on US soil to parents who do not have diplomatic immunity, you are born within US jurisdiction on US soil and there is no further discussion warranted.

It is bizarre that after so *MANY* discussions of this topic on Free Republic, that there are still those of us who don't understand that 14th amendment citizenship is not *NATURAL* citizenship. It is in fact a "naturalization."

Don't believe me? Read the actual debates on the 14th amendment. The people trying to pass it through congress *TELL YOU* that it is a "naturalization" process.

They were trying to give citizenship to freed slaves who were already born here. They wouldn't have to give it if it were already natural.

Giving citizenship to non-citizens is naturalization.

The 14th amendment did not re-write "natural born citizen." It created a new naturalization process. That's it. That's all.

60 posted on 07/15/2024 10:03:51 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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