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1 posted on 06/08/2024 1:33:03 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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I love how they call the savages “Native Americans”, when there was no America - and America was founded exclusively by whites ONLY. There was the physical North American continent - a mass of land but no nation called AMERICA. Thatbwas founded by and for descendants of British and European settlers. By definition THEY are the Native Americans. The savages roaming the land not only weren’t American, they were foreigners brutally fighting the creation of America!

They savagely murdered the American colonists, then themselves got what was coming to them.


48 posted on 06/08/2024 3:03:38 PM PDT by libertarian66
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And these are the same wampanoag that begged the puritans to go to war with the Iroquois when the puritans first stepped off the boat.


49 posted on 06/08/2024 3:06:30 PM PDT by struggle
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Missing from the story:

a colonial Massachusetts Puritan woman who was taken captive by Abenaki people from Quebec during King William’s War, with her newborn daughter, during the 1697 raid on Haverhill, in which 27 colonists, 15 of them children, were killed


59 posted on 06/08/2024 3:40:48 PM PDT by dangus
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I grew up in Haverhill, down in Riverside at the base of Powder House Hill. The original Powder House is still there.

Hannah was a heroine, no doubt about it.

Essex County, MA is loaded with history.

60 posted on 06/08/2024 3:46:26 PM PDT by metesky ("Leave us go amongst them." - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton- Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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Awesome hotel... We used to stay here in the 1960s.


61 posted on 06/08/2024 3:47:38 PM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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So? That is the way it was back then. The massacre of the Hungate Family is what sent Chivington to Sand Creek, the Cheyenne had been killing whole families in Kansas when Gen Sheridan gave orders to Custer to find and punish them at the Washita, and the Cheyenne in 1876 slaughtered Shoshone children and cut off the right hands of Shoshone babies.

How the tribes treated each other BEFORE The White Man arrived...

https://www.science20.com/news_articles/the_most_violent_era_in_america_was_before_europeans_arrived-141847

https://ournativeamericans.blogspot.com/2018/07/1300s-crow-creek-massacre-in-south.html

https://www.academia.edu/7907221/Mass_Grave_at_Crow_Creek_in_South_Dakota_Reveals_How_Indians_Massacred_Indians_in_14th_Century_Attack

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/massacre-sacred-ridge

https://bonesdontlie.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/basketmaker-ii-cave-7-massacre-or-cemetery/

https://mcclungmuseum.utk.edu/1991/12/01/scalping-victim/

https://www.oldwest.org/origins-of-scalping/#:~:text=Archaeologists%20Show%20Scalping%20Predated%20Columbus

https://prezi.com/z9ioohxrdgat/anasazi-cannibalism/?fallback=1

https://www.cityweekly.net/BuzzBlog/archives/2013/09/11/new-research-supports-theory-of-ancient-massacre-site-in-utah

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39268873

https://www.historynet.com/when-the-sioux-ambushed-pawnee-hunters-at-massacre-canyon/

https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/trail_dust/trail-dust-massacre-at-awatovi-is-little-known-act-of-genocide/article_7231e60b-9897-50bc-992d-8d5344685d4c.html

http://www.dickshovel.com/scalp.html

https://lostworlds.org/ancient-massacre-discovered-in-new-mexico-was-it-genocide/

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62 posted on 06/08/2024 4:00:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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I don’t know about honoring her as a hero, but I wouldn’t condemn her either after what her captors put her through. She was obviously traumatized and acted just as brutally toward them as they had acted toward her and the other people in the farmsteads they raided.


63 posted on 06/08/2024 4:20:40 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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This lady definitely deserves a monument, and our respect.

She killed her captors and the people supporting them.


65 posted on 06/08/2024 4:48:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I’ll honor her. Damn fine job.


76 posted on 06/08/2024 6:55:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Kidnap a mom and beat her baby to death? FAFO.... those indians found out.


77 posted on 06/08/2024 8:55:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Two things can be true at once:

1) Her actions were justified, and

2) The fact that there is a statue in her honor is weird.

82 posted on 06/09/2024 11:02:46 AM PDT by thefactor
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