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To: Flavious_Maximus

“I’m sure Russia will also demand that Ukraine can never be part of NATO, else the deal is off.”

NATO would have to agree to this condition and NATO never will. Russia does not get a vote in who does or does not join NATO.


6 posted on 05/24/2024 10:11:48 AM PDT by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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To: MeganC
NATO would have to agree to this condition and NATO never will

Then, will cease to exist.

What don't you understand about that?

We're, thankfully, NOT putting troops on the ground. Europe isn't going to if we don't. Ukraine can't stop the Russians from ultimately taking all of Ukraine it wants.

But, it's painfully obvious, you don't give a damn about Ukraine or Ukrainians. All you care about is killing Russians. That's what makes twisted, sick freeps like you so dangerous to national and world security.

14 posted on 05/24/2024 10:19:54 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: MeganC

You said, "NATO would have to agree to this condition and NATO never will. Russia does not get a vote in who does or does not join NATO."

The US is the largest bag of money which funds NATO, so the US has a disproportionate control of who joins NATO.

In 2010, the Ukraine's "parliament passed a law banning Ukraine from joining any military bloc, effectively banning it from entering NATO though maintaining opportunities for cooperation. According to a poll conducted by Pew Research Center the fall before, just over half of Ukrainians disapproved of NATO and the idea Ukraine might try to join, while just 28% approved." source

ransomnote: Since the Ukraine moved to prevent NATO membership, the US CIA overthrew the Ukrainian government  (start of that 'revolution' was February 18, 2014). With (CIA) help, NATO was now in control of the Ukraine, Russia responded by annexing part of Crimea Feb 20, 2014 – Mar 21, 2014  and in May, two more reagions of the Crimea voted for independence to escape the NATO controlled Ukraine, at which point Western Ukraine began shelling Eastern Ukraine in hopes of killing off ethnic Russians among its population and rebels who support Russia. Nobody likes to talk about Eastern Ukraine shelling western Ukraine.

Ukraine: Widespread Use of Cluster Munitions

Government Responsible for Cluster Attacks on Donetsk

(Berlin) – Ukrainian government forces used cluster munitions in populated areas in Donetsk city in early October 2014, Human Rights Watch said today. The use of cluster munitions in populated areas violates the laws of war due to the indiscriminate nature of the weapon and may amount to war crimes.

During a week-long investigation in eastern Ukraine, Human Rights Watch documented widespread use of cluster munitions in fighting between government forces and pro-Russian rebels in more than a dozen urban and rural locations. While it was not possible to conclusively determine responsibility for many of the attacks, the evidence points to Ukrainian government forces’ responsibility for several cluster munition attacks on Donetsk."

https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions

 


25 posted on 05/24/2024 10:49:04 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: MeganC

” NATO would have to agree to this condition ..”

bullSchiff :
NATO does not get a vote on the surrender terms of your proxy


26 posted on 05/24/2024 11:01:41 AM PDT by A strike (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
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