Posted on 05/24/2024 9:42:37 AM PDT by Kazan
Most likely “Final Result” of the Obama-Biden administration’s Ukrainian War against Russia?
A Korean War type stalemate and “permanent” cease-fire line on the current trenchlines. As soon as Putin is out of power. (By death, assassination, or old age.) But, also, Biden-Pelosi-Kerry-Romney sons must be kicked off of their positions on the corrept Ukranian oil and gas company’s board of directors.
Logical move. Russia could not rule over an angry Ukraine State. Best to take the areas where Russians live (and all the natural resources are). In time Russia and Ukraine can develop good relations and this past bit of unpleasantness will be forgotten. All wars come to an end and are consigned to the history books.
You said, "NATO would have to agree to this condition and NATO never will. Russia does not get a vote in who does or does not join NATO."
The US is the largest bag of money which funds NATO, so the US has a disproportionate control of who joins NATO.
In 2010, the Ukraine's "parliament passed a law banning Ukraine from joining any military bloc, effectively banning it from entering NATO though maintaining opportunities for cooperation. According to a poll conducted by Pew Research Center the fall before, just over half of Ukrainians disapproved of NATO and the idea Ukraine might try to join, while just 28% approved." source
ransomnote: Since the Ukraine moved to prevent NATO membership, the US CIA overthrew the Ukrainian government (start of that 'revolution' was February 18, 2014). With (CIA) help, NATO was now in control of the Ukraine, Russia responded by annexing part of Crimea Feb 20, 2014 – Mar 21, 2014 and in May, two more reagions of the Crimea voted for independence to escape the NATO controlled Ukraine, at which point Western Ukraine began shelling Eastern Ukraine in hopes of killing off ethnic Russians among its population and rebels who support Russia. Nobody likes to talk about Eastern Ukraine shelling western Ukraine.
Ukraine: Widespread Use of Cluster Munitions
Government Responsible for Cluster Attacks on Donetsk
(Berlin) – Ukrainian government forces used cluster munitions in populated areas in Donetsk city in early October 2014, Human Rights Watch said today. The use of cluster munitions in populated areas violates the laws of war due to the indiscriminate nature of the weapon and may amount to war crimes.
During a week-long investigation in eastern Ukraine, Human Rights Watch documented widespread use of cluster munitions in fighting between government forces and pro-Russian rebels in more than a dozen urban and rural locations. While it was not possible to conclusively determine responsibility for many of the attacks, the evidence points to Ukrainian government forces’ responsibility for several cluster munition attacks on Donetsk."
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
” NATO would have to agree to this condition ..”
bullSchiff :
NATO does not get a vote on the surrender terms of your proxy
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Biden and Nuland won’t take the deal. But Trump will force the Gay/Actor/Ukie President to take the deal.
And yeah, I know Nuland resigned. She is responsible for this mess.
This is complete nonsense... Colonel’s don’t make decisions... Generals do.
Putin never intended to invade and occupy the Ukraine. It was a specific military operation. In several months it will likely be over.
For those that actually read Vlad’s speech on day one- return of the ethnic Russian provinces, which is now almost 98 percent complete, Ukie denazification ,and Ukie Neutrality- WILL be MEET….well, routing out the Ukro Nazis has not yet, but I am sure it will somehow be implemented.
Based on Vlad’s clearly spelled out objectives on day one, he will prevail (but I wouldn’t trust any deals with the West)…proven liars…. Remember the NATO promise “ not one step east?”….go Vlad, US forever wars must stop.
Those in those regions had every right to seek independence and join the Russian Federation. They did so. There isn't a thing that is going change that.
Also, by that illogic, the USA should return Hawaii to the descendants of Kamehameha.
Actually we should.
The only way colonels make decisions is after seizing power in a coup. See Gaddafi, the Greeks in the 1960s, etc.
Thank you for parroting the Official Narrative of the Russian Foreign Ministry. I’m sure Minister Lapdog is grateful for your service.
“Those in those regions had every right to seek independence and join the Russian Federation.”
You do understand how farcical this statement is, right?
None of that arguable.
Why on earth should the people in those regions remain part of Ukraine when the government that came to power persecuted them?
You don't care because all you want to go to war with Russia, proving once again what a threat you and people that think like you are to national and world security.
It’s what the left and a bunch of other idiots espouse these days.
“Why on earth should the people in those regions remain part of Ukraine when the government that came to power persecuted them?”
Those people who want to be part of Russia had every right in the world to go to Russia, an option I invite you to exercise as well.
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