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Why Donald Trump ‘hates Ukraine’
Politico ^ | APRIL 18, 2024 | VERONIKA MELKOZEROVA

Posted on 04/19/2024 5:26:17 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Donald Trump doesn’t easily forgive or forget.

As Trump’s Republican allies in the United States Congress block military aid that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Kyiv desperately needs to avoid defeat in its war with invading Russian forces, it’s clear the former U.S. president’s ill will toward Ukraine has deep roots.

It was, after all, a phone call with Zelenskyy that led to Trump’s first impeachment in December 2019, after he was accused of seeking to influence the 2020 election by leaning on the Ukrainian leader to investigate current President Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

There’s every sign the country is still preying on his mind. When Congress moved this month to reauthorize the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act — legislation governing the surveillance of suspected international adversaries — Trump took to social media to object.

“KILL FISA,” he posted on Truth Social. “IT WAS ILLEGALLY USED AGAINST ME, AND MANY OTHERS.”

That Trump was likely referring to the wiretapping of his former campaign chairman Paul Manafort is unlikely to have gone unnoticed in Ukraine, where officials are watching the U.S. presidential election campaign for signs of what it could mean for their war effort.

As the presumptive Republican candidate, Trump has already triggered fear in Kyiv by boasting he could end the war in 24 hours and musing that he hopes it ends before he is forced to decide whether to give Ukraine to Moscow.

The mention of Manafort, oblique though it was, will only heighten concerns in Ukraine that the U.S. president still holds a grudge against a country he sees as intimately involved with delegitimizing his presidency.

From the first intimations of Russian interference in America’s 2016 presidential campaign, to an investigation by a special prosecutor, to Trump’s 2019 impeachment...

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.eu ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: angryzeepersbelow; killkillkillforpeace; neoconshatetrump; neoconslovebiden; petromaximus; ukraine; veronikamelkozerova; zeeeeeeeep
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To: Kazan

What a nice man. I’m sure you are very good for your friends blood pressure.


21 posted on 04/19/2024 6:46:30 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Husker24

I can’t think of a Euro country that got worse after joining the EU (or its predecessors). Even genuine shitholes like Albania.


22 posted on 04/19/2024 6:49:01 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Rdct29
People think this money is going to help Ukraine but it's not.

And how do you think that the Ukrainians have been able to hold off the Russians for more than two years?

23 posted on 04/19/2024 6:49:48 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Husker24

Ex-
Case in point, Hungary, currently Euroskeptic, but note, they arent about to leave the EU, no way.

Hungary gdp per capita ppp -

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.PP.CD?locations=HU

It joined in 2004, but was benefiting before that from accession provisions like free trade, Schengen, structural funds, etc.


24 posted on 04/19/2024 6:58:45 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: MinorityRepublican
Trump's opposition to FISA is not about Ukraine, it never was. Zelensky and the Ukrainian government backed Trump's version of their phone call. It was about how Obama corrupted the DOJ and FBI into using FISA as a political weapon.

All that was before Russia invaded Ukraine. So never mind that, when the MSM pushes our buttons, why not get triggered?

25 posted on 04/19/2024 6:59:23 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇸 Trump 2024 🇺🇸)
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To: Kazan

Death to every Russian soldier that sets foot inside Ukraine. !

Few nations have hated America like the leadership of Russia.


26 posted on 04/19/2024 7:08:28 PM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: mass55th
You mean more money from US taxpayers for yet another proxy war with Russia. Don't you get tired of pissing away other people's money?

These foreigners are quite eager to decide for us how our money is spent. I don’t think they’re smart enough to realize how socialist they sound.

And I suspect there’s nothing in that slimy bill that calls for any auditing or accountability of that Ukraine aid package.

27 posted on 04/19/2024 7:12:06 PM PDT by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Petrosius
And how do you think that the Ukrainians have been able to hold off the Russians for more than two years?

It's because the corrupt running the bankrupt U.S. government prints billions everyday, based on nothing. Then the corrupt are able to continue selling influence and paying bribes to their corrupt associates running Ukraine and all over the globe. So what if doing all this makes the dollar worth less and less here at home. Right?

The evil corrupt running the U.S. government, who created this country killing debt, can easily manage 35 trillion zillion...Right?

What's it matter if the corrupt have bankrupt the next 10 generations in the U.S. It's for our good friends in Ukraine, right?

28 posted on 04/19/2024 7:16:36 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Poor Ukraine. Their leaders fell in with the Democrats when Obama was in office, and because they had formed a corrupt bond with Biden, they let themselves be used to try to remove Trump as soon as he came into office. And since then, they have not had the sense to reconcile with Trump.


29 posted on 04/19/2024 7:28:50 PM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: dragnet2

And all of this is going to happen for less the 1% of the federal budget? Stop hyperventilating.


30 posted on 04/19/2024 8:00:07 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: MinorityRepublican

This could not be more ridiculous. Just yesterday Donald Trump was defending Ukraine.


31 posted on 04/19/2024 8:10:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Kazan

Why don’t you move on already to calling for the death of all Poles.


32 posted on 04/19/2024 8:11:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: MinorityRepublican
At one time the Left thought Trump was too much a hawk:

"When you actually look at the substance of what this administration has done, not the rhetoric but the substance, this administration has been much tougher on Russia than any in the post-Cold War era," said Daniel Vajdich, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. Take military spending: Trump sought to add $1.4 billion for fiscal year 2018 to the European Deterrence Initiative — a military effort to deter Russian aggression that was initially known as the European Reassurance Initiative. That's a 41 percent increase from the last year of the Obama administration.
The president also agreed to send lethal weapons to Ukraine — a step that Obama resisted.

And Trump gave U.S. forces in Syria more leeway to engage with Russian troops... "Those loosened rules of engagement have resulted in direct military clashes with Russian militants and mercenaries on the ground, actually resulting in one incident in hundreds of casualties on the Russian side," Vajdich said.

The administration has also imposed sanctions on dozens of Russian oligarchs and government officials... tough policies...have to be weighed against Trump's rhetoric, which is consistently friendly to Putin. ."There's a real disconnect between the president's words and the underlying policy," said Richard Fontaine, president of the Center for a New American Security. - https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/630659379/is-trump-the-toughest-ever-on-russia

And rather than being a pawn of Putin, from from 12/26/17 there is

Trump Sends Tank-Killing Missile To Fight Russia in Ukraine, But What Can It Do? By John Haltiwanger On 12/26/17 at 5:53 PM EST The decision to sell the Javelin missiles also comes not long after the Trump administration approved a limited weapons sale between American manufacturers and Ukraine of Model M107A1 sniper systems, ammunition and associated equipment...It's fired from the shoulder and tracks targets via infrared (heat signature). Instead of targeting the front or sides of tanks, which are thick with armor, the missile flies in an arc and hits the top of tank where the armor is weak..

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko defended the move in a Facebook post, thanking President Donald Trump for his support. Poroshenko further described the arms sale as "a transatlantic vaccination against the Russian virus of aggression." - https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tank-killing-missile-fight-russia-ukraine-759745

And as reported by abcnews.go.com om Dec. 23, 2020,

"Previously, as reported by ABC News – Breaking News, Latest News, Headlines & Videos om Dec. 23, 2020, "Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to Ukraine.." The new package included Javelin anti-tank weapons, 150 missiles and two launchers, which came after a first sale, completed in March 2018, which included 210 Javelin missiles and 37 launch units.. "The Trump administration first approved the sale of Javelins to Ukraine in December 2017 -- a step that former President Barack Obama never took.... ..

Before that, "Russia's Putin praises Obama's missile defense decision" to "cancel a radar installation in the Czech Republic and ground-based interceptors planned for Poland," LA Times Sep 19, 2009

And those who protest NATO's overall spending of only about 3% of its GDP are opposing Trump. For contrary to being a Putin puppet as the Left prevaricates - and who were blaming him in Feb. 2020 for this invasion,


July 11, 2018 U.S. President Donald Trump told NATO leaders on Wednesday they should increase their defense spending to 4 percent of their country’s economic output, double the group’s current goal of two percent/
4/3/19
..nearly all 29 NATO members have increased their defense spending since Trump came to office, and at least 16 of the 29 are on track to meet their 2024 defense spending goals. Defense spending among 27 NATO allies has increased consistently between 2016 and 2018, with Hungary, Norway, Romania and Turkey making some of the biggest increases.

October 21, 2020 NATO spending has increased for the sixth consecutive year thanks to new contributions from allies, Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said in prepared remarks Wednesday...Canada and European countries' spending increased this year at a rate of 4.3 percent...Russia and China's aggressive behavior during Trump's term is one reason for the allies' increased spending.

33 posted on 04/19/2024 8:14:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Husker24

I would never think that, but I don’t understand the we must worship Russia and Putin crowd? Can you explain that to me? I don’t have to do what Obama tells me.Can you explain that to me? I don’t have to do what Obama tells me.


34 posted on 04/19/2024 8:15:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Allegra

Obama told Putin he would do whatever Putin needed after he got reelected. So why do all Americans have to worship Putin now??


35 posted on 04/19/2024 8:16:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Petrosius

The corrupt who got us 35 trillion in debt have plenty of cash for Ukraine and other foreign countries. Right?

What’s billions more? Just print it up! Right slick?


36 posted on 04/19/2024 8:19:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Why Donald Trump ‘hates Ukraine’

President Trump doesn't hate the Ukraine, he has just cause to hate Uke GloboHomoPedoNazis and Zelensky, however he's above that.

They will be brought to Justice, along with their American Traitor collaborating counterparts, and they will pay the price.

37 posted on 04/19/2024 8:21:50 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: nickcarraway
So why do all Americans have to worship Putin now??

I have no idea. I can’t stand Putin. Or Zelensky. Or Biden/Obama.

I just want their grubby mitts out of my wallet.

You say “all Americans.” What country are you in where you would get the outlandish notion that “all Americans must worship Putin?”

Eeewww.

38 posted on 04/19/2024 8:30:15 PM PDT by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: nickcarraway; Kazan

I want to emphatically state for the record I am in favor of sparing many Polish women in this bellowing for genocide

Y’all can bookmark it

I’ve known some that were exquisite

And their bears and forests and cured meats

Ok and Prussia while we’re at it


39 posted on 04/19/2024 8:50:59 PM PDT by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind btw Alina Habba is fine as grits)
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To: Williams

Long live America!
Long Live Trump!
Long Live Free Europe!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well said.
Common sense, and a win/win for the West.


40 posted on 04/20/2024 6:47:11 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE (The only thing needed for Evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing.)
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