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Will a Money Hungry Government Take Away Your IRA and 401K?...A Bloomberg op-ed proposes the government will kill the 401K, and also that it should.
https://mishtalk.com ^ | February 27, 2024 | Mike 'Mish' Shedlock

Posted on 02/29/2024 5:31:44 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 02/29/2024 5:31:44 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

“You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly sh____er jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, ‘cause they own this f______g place. It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.”

-George Carlin


2 posted on 02/29/2024 5:33:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

Maybe trading in scalps will replace it?


3 posted on 02/29/2024 5:33:39 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Red Badger

They’re telegraphing the next moves.

L


4 posted on 02/29/2024 5:34:08 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Red Badger

I have a better idea. Abolish 401(k)’s AND abolish the income tax. Deal?


5 posted on 02/29/2024 5:35:10 AM PST by fwdude (.When unarmed Americans are locked up for protesting a stolen election, you know it was stolen.)
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To: Red Badger

Well, it could be argued that the Federal Government should have been limited to taxing income, in the first place.

The People and States should have fought tirelessly to limit the definition of “income” to the minimum possible.


6 posted on 02/29/2024 5:36:45 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty ( )
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To: Lurker

Argentina took all the 401ks from their citizens and then spent the dough..............


7 posted on 02/29/2024 5:37:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

The accounts are not “tax free” - they are tax deferred. They collect taxes on the payouts...which should be larger. Would they be ending the taxes on the payouts if they end the tax exemption on the deposits? Or is this going to be a case of double taxation?


8 posted on 02/29/2024 5:37:23 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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He certainly got that right..................


9 posted on 02/29/2024 5:39:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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This has been talked about since the Clinton Administration. Some broad at some NY think tank came right out and advocated for complete confiscation of 401k plans.

You know, for “safety”.

L


10 posted on 02/29/2024 5:41:03 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

They want the Roth IRA’s too, which is money that is already taxed................


11 posted on 02/29/2024 5:41:06 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Republican Wildcat

just a bunch of idiots talking about something that will never happen. Similar to those who claim social security will not be there when we retire.


12 posted on 02/29/2024 5:41:28 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Red Badger

The younger generations that want “free healthcare” are going to get it, at the cost of retirement and savings plans.


13 posted on 02/29/2024 5:41:45 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (The kernel of our firm's job is to go with lots. - tnlibertarian job offer letter)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Who wants free healthcare that is staffed by DEI applicants?................


14 posted on 02/29/2024 5:42:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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It will be free, and worth every penny.


15 posted on 02/29/2024 5:43:56 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger
I remember back in the 1990's Bill Clinton proposed a one time 15% "tax" on all the money in 401k's to shore up Social Security (so basically they were just going to steal 15% of your 401k). The reaction was so negative he dropped the idea and claimed it was never a serious proposal just one of many ideas that were being discussed.

But for decades democrats have been salivating at the thought of there being trillions of dollars sitting out there in 401k's that they could use to fund their social boondoggles.

16 posted on 02/29/2024 5:43:56 AM PST by apillar
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> Median total financial assets of those age 60 is only $53,000.

Barely enough to buy a lower end pickup truck.


17 posted on 02/29/2024 5:44:08 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Red Badger

They want Revolution II? Just try that, Obamaholes, try it.


18 posted on 02/29/2024 5:44:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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But the seed was planted, and it takes 2 or 3 generations for it to bear fruit. Children have been indoctrinated to support socialism, and once they reach critical mass in the electorate, it’s Katy bar the door!


19 posted on 02/29/2024 5:45:28 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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They don’t care about the tax money, they care about destroying the middle class and the American way of life....The money is the excuse, confiscation is their goal.


20 posted on 02/29/2024 5:45:56 AM PST by mikelets456
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