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More fun with ChatGPT (NFL edition)
ChatGPT 3.5 ^ | 02/06/2024 | Self/ChatGPT

Posted on 02/06/2024 3:13:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana

I have a casual interest in AI, but most of my tests, which are NOT designed to trip it up, end in failure. Right now, it is way too unreliable for too many things to be a very useful tool except maybe in computer programming and IT support.

Here I ask ChatGPT 3.5 (NOT the newest version) a simple question about the NFL.

Dr. Sivana: Could you describe the history of the field goal in the NFL?

ChatGPT: Certainly! The field goal has been an integral part of American football since its inception, including in the NFL. Here's a brief history of the field goal in the NFL:

Early Days (1920s-1930s): In the early years of the NFL, the field goal was one of the primary methods of scoring points, along with touchdowns and extra points. However, the rules and regulations governing field goals were quite different from what we see today. Field goals were worth fewer points, and the shape and size of the goalposts varied from stadium to stadium.

Standardization (1940s-1950s): During this period, the NFL began to standardize the rules regarding field goals. The goalposts were required to be 18.5 feet apart and positioned on the goal line, a rule that remains in place today. Field goals were worth three points, the same as they are today.

Evolution of Kicking Technique (1960s-1970s): As the NFL evolved, so did the techniques and skills of placekickers. Kickers began to specialize in the art of field goal kicking, developing techniques to maximize accuracy and distance. Kickers like Lou Groza and Jan Stenerud became known for their ability to consistently convert field goals from long distances.

Rule Changes and Challenges (1980s-1990s): Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, the NFL made several rule changes aimed at making field goals more challenging and exciting. This included moving the spot of the kickoff to the 30-yard line, which resulted in longer field goal attempts. Additionally, the NFL experimented with narrower goalposts during the 1991 preseason, though this change was ultimately not adopted for regular-season play.

Modern Era (2000s-present): In the modern NFL, field goal kicking has become highly specialized, with teams often employing dedicated placekickers whose sole responsibility is to score points through field goals and extra points. Kickers like Adam Vinatieri and Justin Tucker have become legendary for their clutch performances and ability to make game-winning kicks.

Throughout its history, the field goal has remained a crucial aspect of NFL strategy, with teams often relying on their kickers to score points in critical situations. Whether it's a game-winning kick in the closing seconds or a long-distance field goal to tie the game, the field goal continues to be one of the most dramatic and exciting plays in football.

Dr. Sivana: "The goalposts were required to be 18.5 feet apart and positioned on the goal line, a rule that remains in place today." Actually, today the goalposts are placed in the back of the endzone, not on the goal line.

ChatGPT: You're absolutely correct, and I appreciate the clarification. In today's NFL, the goalposts are indeed positioned at the back of the end zone, not on the goal line as they were in the past. This change was implemented to reduce the risk of injury to players who might collide with the goalposts during plays near the end zone. Thank you for pointing out that important distinction.

Dr. Sivana: What were field goals worth in the 1920s?


ChatGPT: In the early years of the NFL, specifically in the 1920s, field goals were worth fewer points than they are today. During that era, a field goal was worth 3 points, which is the same value as it is in modern NFL rules. So, despite changes in other aspects of the game, the value of a field goal has remained consistent over the years.

Dr. Sivana: That sounds self-contradictory. If field goals were worth less in the early years of the NFL, how could the value be consistent over the years?

ChatGPT: You are correct, and I apologize for the confusion. Let me clarify:

In the early years of the NFL, particularly in the 1920s, field goals were indeed worth fewer points than they are today. The value of a field goal varied throughout the league's early history. Initially, in 1920, a field goal was worth 3 points, but this value was reduced to 2 points in 1924.

Therefore, I misspoke in my previous response. The value of field goals has not remained consistent over the years. It has changed, with field goals being worth 2 points for a period of time before reverting to 3 points, which is the current value in the modern NFL rules. Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and I apologize for any confusion caused.


TOPICS: Science; Sports
KEYWORDS: ai; football

1 posted on 02/06/2024 3:13:23 PM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: Dr. Sivana

GPT is getting AOK at CYA.


2 posted on 02/06/2024 3:21:46 PM PST by left that other site (ROMANS 8:28)
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To: left that other site

I do wonder if corrections that are made by humans get added to its knowledge base, or if they will mainly work on improving the engine.


3 posted on 02/06/2024 3:23:45 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

So it’s AI because it contradicts itself and apologizes all the time? Whatever you call programming, like I used to do, wouldn’t be accepted if it did this.

I hope AI doesn’t get a learner’s permit.


4 posted on 02/06/2024 3:30:07 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Dr. Sivana

This is good news. The AI is still AS (Artificial Stupidity) or maybe AI (Artificial Ignorance).


5 posted on 02/06/2024 3:31:31 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: Dr. Sivana
In my former career as a medical transcriptionist, the industry was relying more and more on speech recognition programs, which was Dictaphone in my hospital’s case. Instead of typing a report from scratch, which was faster and far more accurate, we were required to edit the physician-dictated report that popped up on our screen. Our supervisor was adamant that we edit and not retype the report.

The first year the reports were gibberish and 90% full of errors. The second year they improved dramatically and were only 20% erroneous. The third year they were practically perfect…which is when they got rid of our entire department of 40 ppl.

Oh, we were offered jobs with the transcription company Dictaphone was affiliated with, but with 1 week of vacation instead of 4, a 50% pay cut, and lousy health insurance. That became the case industry wide, which is why that career, which employed approximately 100,000 ppl, mainly women, is practically dead as a viable source of income.

I refuse to help AI “learn” anything as a result of my experience.

6 posted on 02/06/2024 3:34:45 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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“I don’t know anything for sure, but I will make things up and apologize for being wrong.”
Nice.


7 posted on 02/06/2024 3:42:53 PM PST by vpintheak (Pinko misanthrope)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I wonder how much of it is a room full of geeks chained to their computers. /s


8 posted on 02/06/2024 3:51:26 PM PST by left that other site (ROMANS 8:28)
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“I don’t know anything for sure, but I will make things up and apologize for being wrong.”

100% more honest than any politician or a "journalist".

9 posted on 02/06/2024 3:57:27 PM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I would like to watch a version of Mystery Science Theater 3000 critiquing a NFL game.


10 posted on 02/06/2024 4:03:44 PM PST by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Everything I see lately makes me want to think aliens are actually running everything behind the scenes and trying to drive us all crazy as some kind of test.


11 posted on 02/06/2024 4:17:01 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: All

Is there an AI version of Taylor Swift, or is that too large a dichotomy?


12 posted on 02/06/2024 5:05:40 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: Dr. Sivana

Proves that ChatGPT is useless garbage, and unintelligent.


13 posted on 02/07/2024 5:21:42 AM PST by dinodino ( Cut it down anyway. )
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To: Dr. Sivana
Dr. Sivana: "The goalposts were required to be 18.5 feet apart and positioned on the goal line, a rule that remains in place today." Actually, today the goalposts are placed in the back of the endzone, not on the goal line.

Technically yes, the goal post (singular) is positioned 10 yards from the goal line. The goal posts or uprights are positioned 4 yards from the goal line. The kick is still longer than original, but not 10 yds longer.

14 posted on 02/07/2024 7:50:28 AM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: cport

I didn’t know that! You are more useful than ChatGPT


15 posted on 02/07/2024 8:19:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Dr. Sivana

Maybe you could convince Mrs cport that I am somehow useful...


16 posted on 02/07/2024 3:41:22 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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