“Obama - even though he served up a forged birth certificate in my view, the easy argument here is that he was born to an American mother.”
BUT, she was not old enough to be able to convey citizenship to Obama. Besides it has to be BOTH parent”s”.
“But the short version is that his mother wasn’t old enough to confer citizenship on any foreign-born child of hers. At the time, the law stated that a mother only conferred citizenship on a foreign-born child of a non-citizen father if she had lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years after the age of 14.”
“Obama - even though he served up a forged birth certificate in my view
Your view of the Hawaii state document is irrelevant. It evidenced the proper signature and seal of the State of Hawaii.
U.S. Const., Art. 4, Sec 1
Article IVSection 1.
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
As long as the State of Hawaii attests to the authenticity of a State document, in the requisite form, your opinion is meaningless.
"Proving" an Act involves a show of proof that what is presented is, in fact, an authentic copy of a legistative or judicial act of a State. Federal law prescribes the method of proving an Act.
A legislative Act is proved by having the seal of the respective state affixed thereto.
A judicial Act is proved "by the attestation of the clerk, and the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the judge, chief justice, or presiding magistrate, as the case may be, that the said attestation is in due form."
The Act of May 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 122) states
"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,That the acts of the legislatures of the several states shall be authenticated by having the seal of their respective states affixed thereto:
That the records and judicial proceedings of the courts of any state, shall be proved or admitted in any other court within the United States, by the attestation of the clerk, and the seal of the court annexed, if there be a seal, together with a certificate of the judge, chief justice, or presiding magistrate, as the case may be, that the said attestation is in due form."
Currently it is codified at 28 USC 1738 which states,
The Acts of the legislature of any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or copies thereof, shall be authenticated by affixing the seal of such State, Territory or Possession thereto.The records and judicial proceedings of any court of any such State, Territory or Possession, or copies thereof, shall be proved or admitted in other courts within the United States and its Territories and Possessions by the attestation of the clerk and seal of the court annexed, if a seal exists, together with a certificate of a judge of the court that the said attestation is in proper form.
See the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in MILWAUKEE COUNTY v. M.E. WHITE CO., 296 U.S. 268 (1935).
2. The faith and credit required to be given to judgments does not depend on the Constitution alone. Article 4, 1, not only commands that 'full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State' but it adds 'Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.' And Congress has exercised this power, by Act of May 26, 1790, c. 11, 28 U.S.C. 687, 28 USCA 687, which provides the manner of proof of judgments of one state in the courts of another, and specifically directs that judgments 'shall have such faith and credit given to them in every court within the United States as they have by law or usage in the courts of the State from which they are taken.'
BUT, she was not old enough to be able to convey citizenship to Obama.
Born in Hawaii, there was no age requirement for his mother. A child born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, is born a United States citizen regardless of the status of his parents. 14A states not a mumbling word about parents.
“But the short version is that his mother wasn’t old enough to confer citizenship on any foreign-born child of hers. At the time, the law stated that a mother only conferred citizenship on a foreign-born child of a non-citizen father if she had lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years after the age of 14.”
This nonsense in quotation marks is a quote attributed to nobody and nothing. Understandable that you do not want to admit you did your research on Quora, or that you are the nitwit who posted that crap on Quora.
As Obama was certified by the state of Hawaii to have been born in Hawaii, the claim is irrelevant. Obama was not foreign born.
The curiosity is that you have no problem with the foreign birth of John McCain who offered the family fable that he was born in the U.S. Naval Hospital on the U.S. Naval Air Station, Coco Solo. And it was purported that he was delivered by none other than "Captain" William L. Irvine. And you seem to have no problem with the fact that McCain never publicly produced any birth certificate, much less one for the U.S. Naval Hospital, Coco Solo.