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To: Mariner

“Hell, that’s what this fight has been about! Whether Ukraine would remain a Russian client, or become an EU client/member of the ‘western’ conglomerate.”

Russia didn’t want Ukraine as a client state (as it indeed was, just as it was a client state of other countries); it wanted Ukraine as a captive state. Not unlike Germany wanting Austria and Czechoslovakia as captive states in the 1930s before “annexing” them.

The problem for Russia is, that Ukraine does NOT want to be a captive state of Russia; nor does it want to be annexed by Russia.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.


71 posted on 12/30/2023 1:16:55 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“Russia didn’t want Ukraine as a client state (as it indeed was, just as it was a client state of other countries); it wanted Ukraine as a captive state.”

A distinction without a difference.

Just as a bunch of European countries are clients of the US. If one tried to peel off (either as the result of a coup, color revolution or general change in population sentiment) the US would not allow it.

If we shared a border (like Canada) we’d go to war over it.


75 posted on 12/30/2023 1:41:04 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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