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To: Mariner

“Because Russia had full control over their political and economic systems before the coup/color revolution of 2014.”

Well, with Yanukovych it certainly had a lot of influence over Ukraine, but not the FULL control you are claiming.


64 posted on 12/30/2023 11:41:07 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Enough control to put Yanukovych in power...along with all his elected predecessors.

All “economic development” originated in Moscow too.


65 posted on 12/30/2023 12:04:35 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ought-six

Hell, that’s what this fight has been about!

Whether Ukraine would remain a Russian client, or become an EU client/member of the “western” conglomerate.

Ukrainians and everyone in Europe/US wants them in THEIR orbit. And Russia wants to keep them.

US interests are that we should not care either way. But do-gooders often confuse their perception of good with real US interests.

Our interests are best served with the free flow of AG and energy produced by both Russia and Ukraine. AND the restoration of our military capabilities...which were reduced by supporting Ukraine. And they were inadequate before the fight started.

A quick Russian victory is where our REAL interests were.


67 posted on 12/30/2023 12:13:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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