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The opinion of the Colorado Supreme Court is so sweeping that it would allow for tit-for-tat removals of candidates from ballots
ThreadReaderApp ^ | December 19, 2023 | Jonathan Turley @JonathanTurley

Posted on 12/19/2023 4:44:45 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: dfwgator

Republicans have no balls.

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We also have a lot of backstabbing traitors that like to side with the democrats & media when the “going gets tough.”

For an example is the 14th Amendment lawsuit in Colorado that is the talk of the day.

The suit is being brought by the liberal nonprofit Citizens for Responsibility & Ethics in Washington(CREW) in coordination with four Republican Colorado voters & two non affiliated voters.(No democrats on the list is laughable)

These liberal nonprofits that are engaged in partisan warfare using the law system, should’ve had their financing gutted years ago.
If they get federal money....cut it.....if they receive money from a third party that receives federal financing.... cut that as well.

It won’t happen, the Republicans are completely flustered by their portrayal in the media as a bunch of villains out to destroy the country.


61 posted on 12/19/2023 8:16:12 PM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: taxcontrol
The Senate Oath

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

So leaving the border wide open for our enemies and giving billions of dollars to Iran qualifies as “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”.

All Colorado did was show you can interpret the 14th Amendment how you want….

62 posted on 12/19/2023 8:22:34 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: R0CK3T
Until January 6, 2021, Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment was one of the vestigial portions of the Constitution.[2] Designed to exclude many former Confederate officials and soldiers from federal or state office, Section Three was quickly neutered by Congress.[3] In 1872, more than the required two-thirds of the Senate and the House of Representatives passed an Amnesty Act removing disabilities from all of the former state officers covered by Section Three.[4] Then in 1898, comparable supermajorities in Congress removed the few remaining disabilities as a gesture of national unity during the Spanish-American War.[5] After that Section Three was almost completely forgotten, except for posthumous disability removals given to Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis in the 1970s.[6]

https://constitutionalcommentary.lib.umn.edu/article/amnesty-and-section-three-of-the-fourteenth-amendment/

63 posted on 12/19/2023 8:29:29 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is our modern “justice” system in the U.S. Three is no real law, and everything is decided by the whims of judges, who then right long opinions justifying whatever they want to do. For example, in 2000 George Bush was permitted to half a recount in FL that likely would have denied him the presidency, yet in 2020 no one was found to have “standing” to challenge a blatantly rigged election or the illegality in which it was conducted. Lots of big long opinions, but no real law that anyone can discern.


64 posted on 12/19/2023 8:32:09 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Lockbox

Yes, I agree. I was just making sure that everyone knows Biden took that oath of office.


65 posted on 12/19/2023 8:49:42 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum

The write ins will be staggering.


I think the ruling even forbids write-ins


66 posted on 12/19/2023 10:13:11 PM PST by sunny bonobo
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To: Skywise

Then there’s his participation in the Russia Collusion Hoax.


67 posted on 12/20/2023 12:47:17 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kiryandil

Several States have already shot these claims down or dismissed them.


68 posted on 12/20/2023 12:48:42 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The Supreme Court must overturn this because Electors must be free from interference from any other government body.

Federalist #68 (Alexander Hamilton):

It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.

It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.

...The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.

...They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment. And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias. Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it. The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means. Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.

There is no room in this process for a court to impose rules and restrictions on the Electors. States that try to influence the outcome of the Electoral College by restricting the people the Electors can choose from is in opposition to what Hamilton wrote in Federalist #68, and is an unconstitutional insertion of a federal office that was explicitly excluded from participating in the Electoral College deliberations.

Article II Section 1

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
The Framers intended for the people to vote for smart, influential non-government people to gather to debate, analyze, investigate, and vote for the President, and that this temporary body cannot be made up of people who hold existing offices in the federal or state governments.

If members of the judiciary are excluded from being in the Electoral College, then their power to control the choosing of Electors or whom the Electors can select must be excluded, too, or they might as well just be the Electoral College itself.

Any court that tries to interfere with this body by putting restrictions on its deliberations (like who they can vote for), is plainly unconstitutional and must be struck down unanimously.

-PJ

69 posted on 12/20/2023 12:52:45 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

bttt


70 posted on 12/20/2023 1:06:43 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Aut Pax Aut Bellum
The write ins will be staggering.

And...according to this ruling, shall/must be rejected.

Hell, Mickey Mouse is actually counted and recorded every election, but not Trump in CO in 2024.

71 posted on 12/20/2023 6:31:16 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: packagingguy
This is a potential four front war if you throw in the domestic cold war.

Just have every patriot/veteran find 2-4 local commies. String them up (after a short trial and guilty verdict). Cold war averted.

72 posted on 12/20/2023 6:32:25 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: LibertyOh
“The U.S. Supreme Court cannot allow this to stand unless the want a bloody revolution.”

The last time a president was left off the ballot was ALSO done by southern Democrats when they removed Lincoln. The next year, a civil war erupted that killed/injured almost 1mm Americans.

73 posted on 12/20/2023 6:38:38 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Colorado starting to suck as bad as California.


74 posted on 12/20/2023 8:15:00 AM PST by Vaduz (....)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
And you thought Lucy was Lawless.

75 posted on 12/20/2023 8:17:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump not convicted of anything being barred from running for president in Colorado....


76 posted on 12/20/2023 4:09:59 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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