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To: Williams
Tucker also doesn’t want to help Israel or Taiwan. He’s a kook.

Curious - which neocon think tank or defense company do you work for?

You clearly want America at war EVERYWHERE.

59 posted on 12/07/2023 9:10:15 PM PST by PGR88
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I think what Tucker is trying to do here is to read the minds of the Biden administration, rather than just reporting a straightforward version of what is being said.

Austin is saying that to abandon Ukraine will likely bring Russia forward through an easier win there towards borders with NATO countries and an inevitable confrontation which by treaty would force the U.S. to respond.

One could attack that position on several grounds. Ukraine could see the writing on the wall and capitulate, preserving enough of its territory to remain a buffer between Russia and NATO. Russia already borders on Estonia anyway. Russia may not really want a direct confrontation with NATO.

I think Williams is essentially correct, Tucker Carlson is taking dog-whistle positions and trying to read minds rather than sticking with factual analysis. At the same time, I would vastly prefer a change in administration, and more pressure on Ukraine to settle with Russia, we cannot go on with this costly defence of a few enclaves which are of dubious significance or value, where a large number of residents may prefer Russia to Ukraine. Is there a principle involved? I think that question has to be answered in the context of what alternatives are possible.

As to defense of Taiwan being a “neo-con” position, I disagree. China should be deterred by all possible means from subjecting millions of free people and a free economy to communist dictatorship. And should we support Israel? The Bible gives us an answer, “I will bless those who bless Jerusalem.” There are other wars we can avoid, but those are two red lines we should not allow adversaries to cross. In Ukraine, I would be quite satisfied to see a settlement redrawing boundaries in more sustainable positions. So long as Russia does not control the lands west of the Dneiper, it is relatively speaking a win for our side. It is not worth ten years of war to save Donetsk and Luhansk, and Crimea was always Russian anyway. It is not in our interest to waste a lot of money and weaponry to support a quixotic project of keeping the Russians out of those places, they are already in (generally speaking) and will likely stay in, so what is the point?


60 posted on 12/07/2023 11:31:40 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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