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To: fuzzylogic
I was referring, not to free speech specifically, but to the concept that the rights of the individual come first, not the ‘rights of the collective’.

No question about that, a recent poll in England showed that the people there are just fine with some restrictions on free speech were fine even though they felt free speech was necessary. No I doubt they actually know the do not have free speech guaranteed there. They also have no right to self defense like we once had here. Depending on where you live you may or may not have a right to self defense. Even then the Feds are using civil right violations to get around the Double Jeopardy clause and the Courts are letting them. Threats of mob violence has more power over justice than we do, plain fact.

48 posted on 11/23/2023 7:55:49 AM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: itsahoot

Having grown up in the UK, still with family and friends there (cousin is a police officer), they really do think they have free speech. They’ve just been convinced that ‘certain speech’ should just not be allowed, without seeing the contradiction. They are not taught the true concepts behind actual free speech (I never was). I questioned my cousin about some of these speech laws. His reply was that they weren’t “really enforced”...as though that made them ok....despite them being an obvious threat to “be careful before you speak”. This was few years ago, now those laws are worse and are being enforced.

All in the same country that values historically famous debate and speeches at the Oxford Union and the availability of ‘speakers corner’ in London.

With the Islamic imports, yes, it’s easier to arrest those ‘being offensive’ (speaking against Islam) than it is to arrest the Islamic mob.

Today, we see all the Islamic representatives protesting Israel under the banner of “Palestinians”. They don’t care less about them, it’s just an excuse to bind their hate together. Some are finally waking up to the real problem they have. Something is going to break very soon.

The glaring hypocrisy - say something online ‘offensive’ about gays or Islam and you’ll get a visit telling you to ‘check your thinking’. Yet those very two groups are the ones most at odds - only the left are so deluded they still don’t yet realize it.


49 posted on 11/23/2023 9:06:38 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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