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Team DeSantis is melting down over @TuckerCarlson going to UFC with @realDonaldTrump
X ^ | November 12, 2023 | Alex Bruesewitz

Posted on 11/12/2023 3:06:38 PM PST by conservative98

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To: lee martell

Your TDS is showing. Get well soon.


41 posted on 11/12/2023 4:23:55 PM PST by conservative98
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To: dforest

Just to clarify, maybe he’s matured over the past few years, but he still has a considerable history being part of the MSM, as well as distancing himself from the MAGA movement.


42 posted on 11/12/2023 4:26:17 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: conservative98

Carlson’s comments about Trump went beyond jesting. Maybe his attitudes have changed towards Trump, but he has a history of being critical of him. And it’s not just the texts. In an interview soon after Trump took office, he expressed his belief that Trump entered politics for personal gain, not out of commitment. I’ll see if I can dig it up.


43 posted on 11/12/2023 4:32:50 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: conservative98

When Hillary Clinton went to Madison Square Garden, the propaganda media wiped out the booing before it issued a DVD of the concert. When Trump goes there, the TV feed somehow lessons the sound of the crowd cheering for him.


44 posted on 11/12/2023 4:34:24 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: TakebackGOP

LOL, I usually like Andrea Widburg’s stuff, but...I thought that was patently silly even to hypothesize. (she WAS hypothesizing it, not advocating it. I think I can accept the difference, but I wouldn’t have even gone there.)

I am a supporter of Donald Trump for a variety of reasons, but I understood the point she made in her article, that Trump is good at communicating in one way in order to lead people, but she thinks his communicating skills are lacking in depth when it comes to explaining policy.

She may be right on that, but I can point to a lot of things where it doesn’t hold up. First and foremost, I would point to Trump’s Rose Garden speech where he withdrew America from the Paris Climate Accord.

Granted, Trump was reading a speech via a teleprompter, but really-Tucker is reading a speech too, whenever he is on (and not interviewing someone) where even though he may or may not have written his “own speech”, he is presenting it via a teleprompter.

What I am saying is that Trump was likely only reading what was written for him by a speechwriter, so it might give an impression of an ability to deliver a cogent defense of policy in trump tht doesn’t really exist.

But honestly, I don’t care. I have seen what smooth talking scumbags like Obama and Bill Clinton were able to do to this country, so I am less interested in Trump’s ability so speak extemporaneously and a smoothly on some policy issue if I believe he understands the issue and will exercise his executive powers to move the solution to an issue in what I see as the correct direction.

Which as Chief Executive, is actually his job, not being able to cite the wonky details like Clinton and Obama liked to make people think they could do.

As for Tucker-I like him because he speaks on issues in a way I simply don’t hear others doing, and I like the combative way he does it. Is he doing only for money? Sure, that is wholly possible. Is he a snake?

Maybe.

In my mind, he is too close to actually being a politician to make me think it is a stretch to think it is impossible to believe he has no moral compass.

But I can accept him for what I like to see as his contribution to addressing things that I think are important to me.

But even saying that, Vice President?

No.

I wan’t someone is is going to work with his President and watch his back and his interests.

On a ship, a Commanding Officer and an Executive Officer who are in tune and on the same page, is key. Those two officers may be quite different in personality, military bearing, ability to read men, make decisions, understand issues, you name it, but as long as the Executive Officer accepts that in his chain of command, he reports to his Captain, and has to subjugate himself to help his Captain achieve his goals.

One of my favorite movies, the Caine Mutiny, has a line where the defense lawyer in the mutiny case is talking to a bunch of the ship’s officers about the concept of loyalty to the position of the Captain, where he says: “You don’t work with the captain because of his hairstyle, but because he’s got the job, or you’re no good.”

I want someone serving as Vice President (not only for Trump, but for any President I would vote for) who understands that dynamic completely. Someone like Pence was poison. You can’t achieve global success in the journey towards goals if the President and the Vice President aren’t pulling in the same direction.

It doesn’t mean they can’t disagree. It doesn’t mean they can’t be honest. It doesn’t mean there can’t be heated and even potentially acrimonious discussion. But at the end of the day, when the decision is made by the Chief Executive (Captain), the Vice President (Executive Officer) should salute, accept the decision, and pursue it with every ounce of zeal and effort as if it had been his own course of action had been accepted by his President (Captain).

That is someone I want as a Vice President no matter who I pull the lever for.

And that is the person Trump will need, and must have.


45 posted on 11/12/2023 4:35:36 PM PST by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: montag813

he is counting on a conviction


46 posted on 11/12/2023 4:37:18 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: mbrfl

I can understand how someone who thought Trump went into politics for personal gain might change his mind after seeing how Trump acted while he was president.


47 posted on 11/12/2023 4:37:18 PM PST by Freee-dame
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To: mbrfl

Neither of them are VP material.
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Right. We need a reliable loyalist like Pius Pence in that position!


48 posted on 11/12/2023 4:38:00 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Current POPE and POTUS: corrupt, ignorant, paranoid, angry, deeply hateful, and deeply despised.)
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To: Freee-dame

That’s true.


49 posted on 11/12/2023 4:38:26 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: spacejunkie2001

anything to back that up?


50 posted on 11/12/2023 4:38:44 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Rennes Templar

Yes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna76056


51 posted on 11/12/2023 4:42:59 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: joshua c

intuition. and the fact that she controls his schedule, interviews, time, etc


52 posted on 11/12/2023 4:42:59 PM PST by spacejunkie2001
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To: conservative98

“Team DeSantis”

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Yeah, it could have been those guys hanging with Trump at the fight but nooo, they all thought they could spread BS about PDJT through the CCP controlled media about, well, everything.

So now, “Team DeSantis” is stuck in mean tweets land after thinking they will be the King’s entourage.

Kinda sad watching someone being THAT stupid.

.


53 posted on 11/12/2023 4:43:46 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Bud Light a porn name?


54 posted on 11/12/2023 4:44:39 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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To: mbrfl

Apparently you have missed much of what he has been saying since FOX. That is understandable because you have to look for those interviews.

I can say this. Most people on this site have had their eyes opened as far as how fooled and mistaken we have been about who and what we supported in the past. He is no different than most of us.

I find him more honest than any of the politician types we have in Congress.

I would never trust any of the others running to be a VP candidate.


55 posted on 11/12/2023 4:47:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: spacejunkie2001

I’d like to see Carlson as White House Press Secretary. What a show that would be!


56 posted on 11/12/2023 4:50:22 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: dforest
Carlson is very well educated and totally qualifies to be a VP. I don’t think he wants to be in politics and enjoys what he is doing.

The VP job is overrated.

57 posted on 11/12/2023 4:50:46 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: conservative98
There is also figure of speech or talking in jest or taking half of a statement and meaning something else.

I find that many people say the opposite of what they really mean.

For instance... "I don't mean to bother you but..."

Yes, they DO mean to bother you.

Another example.... "I hate to tell you this but....".

They don't hate doing so, they can't wait to tell you.

58 posted on 11/12/2023 4:57:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on flight MH370)
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To: joshua c

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/19/casey-ron-desantis-wife-profile-00097456


59 posted on 11/12/2023 5:04:23 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I agree with that.


60 posted on 11/12/2023 5:09:04 PM PST by dforest
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