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STOP PRETENDING THAT JORDAN IS NOT PALESTINE. The "Two-State-Solution" was already implemented when Jordan was created with land from British Mandate Palestine following the same model as the India-Pakistan partition
Conservative Papers ^ | 11/2/2023 | EZEQUIEL DOINY

Posted on 11/02/2023 1:03:46 AM PDT by Ezequiel Doiny

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1 posted on 11/02/2023 1:03:46 AM PDT by Ezequiel Doiny
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

Plus, on a map Jordan has the shape of an Arab riding a camel at a fast pace.

So there’s that, too!


2 posted on 11/02/2023 1:40:43 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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But India still has the world’s third largest Muslim population (at 200 million not far #1 Indonesia’s 231 million), with a higher percentage of Muslims (14%) than the US’s African-American population.


3 posted on 11/02/2023 1:48:01 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

As a matter of fact, a big part of ancient Israel was in what’s now Jordan.
Two of twelve ancient tribes of Israel were given land in Transjordan. Baptism of Jesus actually happen on the Jordan’s shore of the Jordan river.

River of Jordan is not a huge river, it is more a big creek. It can be easily forded and it does not provide any major natural obstacle. In history, the two sides of the river were more-less united.


4 posted on 11/02/2023 2:07:47 AM PDT by AZJeep
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

WIKI

During World War I, Transjordan saw much of the fighting of the Arab Revolt against Ottoman rule. Assisted by the British army officer T. E. Lawrence, the Sharif of Mecca Hussein bin Ali led the successful revolt which contributed to the Ottoman defeat and breaking up of its empire. Ottoman forces were forced to withdraw from Aqaba in 1917 after the Battle of Aqaba. In 1918 the British Foreign Office noted the Arab position East of the Jordan, Biger wrote: “At the beginning of 1918, soon after the southern part of Palestine was conquered, the Foreign Office determined that Faisal’s authority over the area that he controls on the Eastern side of the Jordan river should be recognized. We can confirm this recognition of ours even if our forces do not currently control major parts of Transjordan.’”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Transjordan

The Arabs liberated the area of Jordan from the Turks and they insisted on running it.


5 posted on 11/02/2023 2:20:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

WIKI

After the withdrawal of British forces from Palestine at the end of 14 May 1948, Arab states entered the areas of Mandatory Palestine earmarked by the UN General Assembly Resolution 181 of 29 November 1947 for an independent Arab state, meant to be established alongside a Jewish state. These forces were under the command of King Abdullah I of Jordan. The Jordanian Arab Legion successfully took control of the Old City of Jerusalem and also covering a significant portion of the Jordan River and the Dead Sea, including cities such as Jericho, Bethlehem, Hebron, Nablus, Ramallah, and others. Following the end of hostilities, the area that remained under Jordanian control became known as the West Bank.

During the December 1948 Jericho Conference, hundreds of Palestinian notables in the West Bank gathered, accepted Jordanian rule and recognized Abdullah as ruler. The West Bank was formally annexed on 24 April 1950, but the annexation was widely considered as illegal and void by most of the international community. A month afterwards, the Arab League, having received assurances from Jordan, resolved to treat the annexed area as being held in trust until the Palestine question was resolved. Recognition of Jordan’s declaration of annexation was granted by the United Kingdom, the United States, Iraq, and possibly Pakistan, and no objections were raised when Jordan was admitted to the United Nations in 1955.

When Jordan transferred its full citizenship rights to the residents of the West Bank, the annexation more than tripled the population of Jordan, going from 400,000 to 1,300,000. The naturalized Palestinians enjoyed equal opportunities in all sectors of the state without discrimination, and they were given half of the seats of the Jordanian parliament. After Jordan lost the West Bank to Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War, the Palestinians there remained Jordanian citizens until Jordan renounced claims to and severed administrative ties with the territory in 1988.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation_of_the_West_Bank

King Abdullah I of Jordan did a land grab of the West Bank after the British left Palestine.


6 posted on 11/02/2023 2:24:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

when Jordan was created with land from British Mandate Palestine following the same model as the India-Pakistan partition.

I am surprised when so many people who I thought were educated have no clue about that.
However I have not heard that Jordan has opened their arms to their long lost cousins...


7 posted on 11/02/2023 2:24:54 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

Finally someone speaking about this. Some interesting facts about Jordan, it was composed of territories and tribes who all had some relation to ancient Israel and/or Abraham. Today it is something like 35% Christian. ‘Palestine’ was a territory, not a country and not a governing body. The writer is correct about the British Mandate. They partitioned it to MAKE the two state solution. Now ‘palestinians’ want both parts.


8 posted on 11/02/2023 2:42:39 AM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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If there was no Six-Day War Gaza would be ruled by Egypt and the West Bank by Jordan.

Palestinian Arabs would be governed by Egypt, Jordan or Israel and all would have decent to good government.

The only grievances Palestinian Arabs would have would be confined to land and housing abandoned in the 1948 conflict.

A “Two-State Solution” assumes there would be decent Palestinian Arab government. There is no evidence that is likely given the long history of thuggish/corrupt Palestinian Arab governance.


9 posted on 11/02/2023 2:46:11 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Adder

“when Jordan was created with land from British Mandate Palestine following the same model as the India-Pakistan partition.”

Transjordan was never really under British rule.

The Arabs liberated it from the Turks.

On the other hand, Britain did rule Palestine.

WIKI

The Emirate of Transjordan (Arabic: إمارة شرق الأردن, romanized: Imārat Sharq al-Urdun, lit. ‘the emirate east of the Jordan’), officially known as the Amirate of Trans-Jordan, was a British protectorate established on 11 April 1921, which remained as such until achieving formal independence in 1946.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Transjordan


10 posted on 11/02/2023 2:54:08 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ragnar Danneskjöld

“Now ‘palestinians’ want both parts.”

Bear in mind that prior to 1870 they pretty much had both parts for centuries under Ottoman rule.


11 posted on 11/02/2023 3:03:09 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ezequiel Doiny

Oct 7 showed they cannot depend on IDF to get there in time, if the Pali’s attack without warning using caches of stored weapons.

I don’t think Israel will have a choice: they must universally arm the Jewish population, who must keep their weapons with them in their homes rather than in communal armories, and must have CCW.


12 posted on 11/02/2023 3:11:34 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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The only reason the Hasimites of Jordan don’t want the “Palestinians” is that lot has been taught to worship death.


13 posted on 11/02/2023 3:50:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Iranian replicas of U.S.-made Claymore antipersonnel mines, M4-style assault rifles, TNT and other explosives, and handguns

A goood intellectual property lawsuit could tie the Mullahs up for years and years.

14 posted on 11/02/2023 3:55:53 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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15 posted on 11/02/2023 4:18:27 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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To: AndyJackson

old technology

WIKI

The original M18 mine fell far short of Picatinny’s requirements. One of the first improvements was to replace the steel cubes with 7⁄32-inch (5.6 mm) hardened 52100 alloy ball bearings. These performed poorly for two reasons. Firstly, the hardened steel balls spalled into fragments when hit by the shock of the explosion; the fragments were neither aerodynamic enough nor large enough to perform effectively. Secondly, the blast “leaked” between the balls, reducing their velocity.

A second problem was the curvature of the mine. This was determined experimentally by Bledsoe, through a large number of test firings. After Bledsoe left the project to work at the Rheem corporation, William Kincheloe, another engineer, came onto the Claymore project.

Kincheloe immediately suggested using softer 1⁄8-inch (3.2 mm) steel “gingle” balls, which were used in the foundry process. They did not spall from the shock of the explosive, but deformed into a useful aerodynamic shape similar to a .22 rimfire projectile. Using a homemade chronograph, the engineers clocked the balls at 3,775 feet per second (1,151 m/s). The second change was to use a poured plastic matrix to briefly contain the blast from the explosive, so that more of the blast energy was converted into projectile velocity. After a number of experiments, the engineers settled on Devcon-S steel-filled epoxy to hold the balls in place. With this change, the velocity improved to 3,995 feet per second (1,218 m/s).

Technical challenges to overcome included developing a case to contain the corrosive C-3 explosive that would be durable enough to withstand months of field handling in wide temperature ranges. Using dyes to test various plastics for leaks, they found a suitable plastic called Durex 1661½, which could be easily molded into a case.

By the spring of 1956, Aerojet had a near-final design. It was awarded a pre-production contract for 1,000 M18A1 Claymores, designated T-48E1 during testing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore_mine


16 posted on 11/02/2023 4:30:46 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ezequiel Doiny; Alberta's Child; woodpusher
This article is in dire need of an editor.

In 1921 the UK created the Emirate of Transjordan (Jordan) in the land of Mandatory Palestine

Not quite. Mandatory Palestine already existed as of 1920. Transjordan was not brought under British administration as part of the Mandate of Palestine until 1921 after the Cairo Conference, and even then matters of administration between Palestine and Transjordan were treated differently de facto (and de jure, insofar as questions of Jewish settlement were concerned).

(Also, notwithstanding the conflicting censuses and population surveys throughout the 19th century, the matter of which religious/ethnic demographic constituted a majority in a Jerusalem becomes a lot less impressive when said surveys seemingly show modern Jerusalem not cracking 50,000 people until after World War I.)

17 posted on 11/02/2023 4:37:00 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: AndyJackson

The M4 is also old technology

WIKI

Interest in the M4 carbine was accelerated after the Battle of Mogadishu (1993), in which Rangers complained that their M16 rifles were “unwieldy”

In the Army, the M4 had largely replaced M16A2s as the primary weapon of forward deployed personnel by 2005. The M4 carbine also replaced most submachine guns and selected handguns in U.S. military service, as it fires more effective rifle ammunition that offers superior stopping power and is better able to penetrate modern body armor.

he Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) was started in 2017. The program aimed to replace the M4 Carbine and the M249 SAW with weapons that would compensate for their perceived deficiencies when fighting at longer ranges, as well as addressing concerns about the effectiveness of traditional 5.56x45mm ammunition against troops wearing body armor....SIG Sauer submitted a redesigned MCX variant known as the MCX-SPEAR. In early 2022, the program concluded, with SIG Sauer being declared the winner. Their rifle entry was designated the XM5 (later changed to XM7), and their automatic rifle the XM250

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine


18 posted on 11/02/2023 4:37:40 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: AndyJackson

bkmk


19 posted on 11/02/2023 4:43:58 AM PDT by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Ezequiel Doiny
Well OK, but the Kingdom of Jordan does not want them. Ever heard of Black September? Not the organization, the Jordanian civil war. These particular "Palestinians" are the descendent of refugees from that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

20 posted on 11/02/2023 8:11:38 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along. )
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