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39 years ago, a KGB defector chillingly predicted modern America
https://bigthink.com/the-present/yuri-bezmenov/ ^

Posted on 10/07/2023 3:01:12 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

A former KGB agent named Yuri Alexandrovich Bezmenov claimed in 1984 that Russia has a long-term goal of ideologically subverting the U.S. He described the process as "a great brainwashing" that has four basic stages. The first stage, he said, is called "demoralization," which would take about 20 years to achieve.

Demoralization is a process that is “irreversible.” Bezmenov actually thought (back in 1984) that the process of demoralizing America was already completed. It would take another generation and another couple of decades to get the people to think differently and return to their patriotic American values, claimed the agent.

In what is perhaps a most striking passage in the interview, here’s how Bezmenov described the state of a “demoralized” person:

“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him [a] concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it, until he [receives] a kick in his fan-bottom. When a military boot crashes his balls then he will understand. But not before that. That’s the [tragedy] of the situation of demoralization.”

It’s hard not to see in that the state of many modern Americans. We have become a society of polarized tribes, with some people flat out rejecting facts in favor of narratives and opinions.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigthink.com ...


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Yes Freepers,

NeoSoviet-Russia has partly succeeded in ravaging some of our brains.

The first stage of the process: Demoralize us...

They did it with the hippies in the 60's.. Today they do it to every person who happen to be naive, within America or in the West in general.

1 posted on 10/07/2023 3:01:12 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAHJCPoWCC8


2 posted on 10/07/2023 3:02:53 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

But it’s China that’s behind the latest crap. They picked up the ball after the USSR fell.


3 posted on 10/07/2023 3:03:46 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Then send Frenchmen to Ukraine's front if your cause is so important.

4 posted on 10/07/2023 3:04:52 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: for-q-clinton

Russia and China are sharing the same Soviet ideologies and “values”. Unfortunately.


5 posted on 10/07/2023 3:05:14 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

It’s not Russia at all, The current is BlackRock, WEF, Atlantic counsel, and the New World Order.


6 posted on 10/07/2023 3:05:23 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: for-q-clinton

“But it’s China that’s behind the latest crap. They picked up the ball after the USSR fell.”

Nope, BlackRock...


7 posted on 10/07/2023 3:06:17 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

“It’s not Russia at all, The current is BlackRock, WEF, Atlantic counsel, and the New World Order.”

It’s not China either . You are right who it IS currently .


8 posted on 10/07/2023 3:09:31 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Openurmind

Russia and China are part of it. Hate to say it but the whole world has been taken over. Russia is playing the part, just like the republican party use to before being exposed. In reality, there is a one world government now and the leaders or “stakeholders” are implementing the plan as directed by Schwab.


9 posted on 10/07/2023 3:12:39 PM PDT by dragonblustar (You best start believing in Bible prophecies, you’re in one.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

It was true that they were involved in that. Then in 91 the USSR ended. They rejected that past. There are endless speeches of Putin imploring the west not to repeat their errors.

The Soviets were an enemy trying to do bad things to us. The Russians spent two decades trying to be friends and get away from that era. We flipping them the finger and the USSR’s time bombs ticked on.

And now we have become what they were. The most pervasive domestic spying operation in human history. It makes a babushka at the bottom of the stairs seem quaint. The gulags have opened in the USA for dissidents, exporting revolution around the world (globalism and perversion), everything is being centralized in DC, we have a secret police, corruption is endemic, we have our oligarchs, and socialism is the operating system of DC.

““Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche


10 posted on 10/07/2023 3:13:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: for-q-clinton

China is heloing, no doubt. But the point of demoralization is for it to get to a point where it is self sustaining and costs nothing to promote.


11 posted on 10/07/2023 3:13:21 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: Openurmind

“Ladies and Gentlemen...Our Corporate Anthem!”


12 posted on 10/07/2023 3:13:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Openurmind

It is all the same source.


13 posted on 10/07/2023 3:14:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (It never rains in sunny Alberta. It always rains in rainy Alberta.)
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To: Jonty30

The elite financial corporations are now ruling the whole world through debt and extortion. Even China. Russia is the only true sovereign nation left on earth.

And that is a problem for the globalists as you see right now.


14 posted on 10/07/2023 3:18:33 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I have travelled back and forth to France for the last 40 years, I know that country just as well as America. I can tell you that France is sending shiploads of wonderful SCALP missiles to Ukraine as we speak. Those missiles have already caused havoc among Russian forces in the Black Sea.

The goal is peace.

Make Russia stop its illegal invasion and annexation of a sovereign country. Russia can bring back their troops to Moscow anytime, and prove to the world they support peace.


15 posted on 10/07/2023 3:18:50 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

1963 - The 45 Commmunist Goals (as read into the Congressional Record)

https://www.hiddendominion.com/45-communist-goals-congressional-record-1963/


16 posted on 10/07/2023 3:19:15 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: USA-FRANCE

bump


17 posted on 10/07/2023 3:23:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: USA-FRANCE

“As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore,” said Bezmenov. “A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures; ...”


Is this about Ukraine War supporters ?


18 posted on 10/07/2023 3:23:35 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: dragonblustar

“Russia and China are part of it.”

No they are not, it is bigger than either.

“In reality, there is a one world government now and the leaders or “stakeholders” are implementing the plan as directed by Schwab.”

Bingo, Absolutely correct. BlackRock works for them. And through debt they rule China and use them as a pawn against us. Russia is the only “problem child” for their globalization because they are the only truly sovereign nation left on the planet.

This is what the Ukraine conflict is all about, The globalists cannot stand for it, they want it all...

What we see is called “Corporate Communism”. Look it up...


19 posted on 10/07/2023 3:28:23 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: DesertRhino

“We flipping them the finger and the USSR’s time bombs ticked on.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That sentence right there is RUSSIAS devious propaganda narrative! They have this hysteria saying its AMERICAs! AMERICAs! AMERICAs! fault!
They pretend we rejected their efforts to make friends with the West. Its FALSE! We never rejected any Russian attempt to “make fiends” with us. The West even suggested for a while Russia could join NATO for God’s sake! We did all we could to please Russia!

THEY turned their back on us though!
Don’t fall for Russia’s propaganda where they play the victim! They are the bully-masters, and have always been hardcore imperialist bullies. The huge RUSSIA still holds today as a “patched-up nation”... but exclusively via internal bullying and threats. It’s a huge balloon ready to explode.


20 posted on 10/07/2023 3:28:40 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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