Posted on 09/04/2023 6:55:27 PM PDT by davikkm
People will be puzzled about this operation in the future, it’s literally the most idiotic attempt ever made in recent military history, and probably one of worst defeats in modern military history.
Ukrainians, with every single factor stacked against them, tried to quickly breach a 20-30 km deep defensive belt, mostly because Western supporters of theirs deluded themselves for months how Russia is on the ropes and how Russian ”mobiks” (even though 90% of Ukrainian army are mobilized people by now) will just drop weapons and run, to be crushed under the threads of superior Western tanks.
Even when hit by reality in the first 2 weeks, they just shrugged it off and went further, even though everyone sane and a bit acquainted with military affairs could see it’s a completely futile effort.
If they gave up in the first month, it would be a stinging defeat, but not really major. However, they literally sent all their reserves into this operation, and what little they had remaining was gobbled up by northern front as Russians started pushing there.
Right now, they’re completely at the mercy of Russians. If Russian leadership decides they are willing to pay the price in blood and resources, they can crush them in one fell swoop.
They’re simply out of any serious reserves. As soon as Russians breach the line somewhere and move into their rear, they’re done.
This is a good lesson about how propaganda can literally turn people into complete drones. And people wonder how North Korea functions, well you got a taste of it in these last few months.
The results of their “epic” offensive are quite frankly pathetic.
They promised the liberation of Crimea by reaching the Azov sea and cutting the Russians in half.
Instead, they got bogged down in minefields in the “Gray Zone” and suffered horrendous losses without ever actually reaching the real Russian fortified lines.
When Russia built their defensive lines, they seem to have MASSIVELY overestimated Ukraine’s strength.
But better too much than not enough I guess.
Ukraine has failed, and Russia has won the war.
What will ultimately count are boots on the ground, and Russia’s far outnumber Ukraine’s.
So why should Russia negotiate?
And why should the US/NATO negotiate when there is nothing on the negotiating table?
The US only negotiates when Russia threatens to become so weak that it can no longer take a stand against China, because the US – contrary to all prophecies of doom in the politically alternative space – has no interest in Russia’s collapse.
As long as they’re working with China and there are still Ukrainian soldiers who want to fight, there will be no negotiations – unless Trump comes back like deus ex machina.
So next year will be interesting.
The Ukie government’s problem is that the best deal they can get out of the negotiations at the moment will in any case be much worse than the original Minsk agreement.
The hundreds of thousands of dead and wounded have been sacrificed so utterly pointless.
At the same time, time is working for Putin at the moment.
The extremist Bandera ideology has failed miserably.
The West and especially the EU cannot economically afford the war much longer.
A civil war has been raging in eastern Ukraine since 2014, Zelensky promised to end it peacefully & to protect the minority rights in the east and west.
He did the exact opposite, he fueled the civil war & further restricted the rights of minorities.
There was Minsk I and II, both agreements were broken by the Ukraine.
Today we know from statements by various actors (Merkel, Hollande, Zelensky, Poroshenko) that the Ukrainian leadership never intended to keep the agreements.
It was just a matter of gaining time to rearm.
And that’s the problem: there is no longer any basis of trust.
Should Russia sacrifice thousands of its soldiers to end up with a “Minsk III” that will sooner or later be broken again?
The Western cabal just doesn’t give a sh*t about the minorities that represent local majorities.
One cannot debate or act past a world power, neither Russia nor the US.
NATO has no forces worth mentioning at all, especially none that want to fall for a great totalitarian climate gender reset state.
Did they tell the Russkies?
RE: Ukraine Has Officially Completed Their Summer Counteroffensive
And what was achieved?
Russia plays chess. The neocons thought Zelensky could win in four moves.
Now he’s down to a king and a knight, vs. a king, a queen, and two rooks. But no matter, another $300 billion will solve everything. Play on.
This guy getting fired.
$100 Billion Later: Zelensky Fires Defense Minister Reznikov As Bodies of Cannon Fodder Pile High in Ukrainian Morgues
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/100-billion-later-zelensky-fires-defense-minister-reznikov/
“It’s probably not a good idea to conduct offensive operations when the defense outnumbers you 10 to 1 and you have no air support.”
Oh, details.
That just means Ukraine is winning, you Kremlin Putin lover.
You gotta break eggs to make an omelet, right?
Plus Pooty is dead from cancer anyway.
< /S >
Yeah, I suppose that would do it.
Zelensky got to officially declare himself an unelected dictator.
The only completion is ceasefire and surrender.
Careful, you’re doing too good an impersonation of Jezebel.
Spend some time on the Ukraine demographics wiki, for time frames prior to 2013.
Better yet, did anybody tell...
- timber rattler
- cronos
- Williams
- umc mom
And all the other wacky Zelensky lovers and Brandon look likes who troll us every day with their lies and propaganda.
*Claps hands together like a little kid and giggles*
Big Guy and his cronies in Congress got their cuts.
Sockpuppet for...???
And what was achieved?
“40,000 Ukraine casualties in the first two months.”
So they nailed Moscow and Crimea and there’s a regime change? Wow.
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