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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
ORYX ^ | Since February 24, 2022 and daily | ORYX

Posted on 09/03/2023 7:33:02 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

This list only includes destroyed vehicles and equipment of which photo or videographic evidence is available. Therefore, the amount of equipment destroyed is significantly higher than recorded here. Loitering munitions, drones used as unmanned bait, civilian vehicles and derelict equipment are not included in this list. All possible effort has gone into avoiding duplicate entries and discerning the status of equipment between captured or abandoned. Many of the entries listed as 'abandoned' will likely end up captured or destroyed. Similarly, some of the captured equipment might be destroyed if it can't be recovered. When a vehicle is captured and then lost in service with its new owners, it is only added as a loss of the original operator to avoid double listings. When the origin of a piece of equipment can't be established, it's not included in the list. The Soviet flag is used when the equipment in question was produced prior to 1991. This list is constantly updated as additional footage becomes available.

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Ukrainian Tank losses Running Total: 634

Ukrainian Artillery losses Running Total: 370

RuZZian Tank losses Running Total: 2281
September 2023 – 8
August 2023 – 86
July 2023 – 113
June 2023 – 73
May 2023 – 90
April 2023 – 5
March 2023 - 127
February 2023 – 118
January 2023 – 61
December 2022 – 76
November 2022 – 105
October 2022 – 212
September 2022 - 217
August 2022 – 74
July 2022 – 108
June 2022 – 67
May 2022 – 148
April 2022 – 243
Feb 24 - March 2022 – 350

RuZZian Artillery losses Running Total: 803
September 2023 - 4
August 2023 - 67
July 2023 - 56
June 2023 - 47
May 2023 - 43
April 2023 - 24
March 2023 - 37
February 2023 – 41
January 2023 – 31
December 2022 – 19
November 2022 – 55
October 2022 – 64
September 2022 - 73
August 2022 – 21
July 2022 – 21
June 2022 – 18
May 2022 – 20
April 2022 – 52
Feb 24 - March 2022 – 110


1 posted on 09/03/2023 7:33:02 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas
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To: FtrPilot; PIF; BeauBo; blitz128; Magnum44

Previous day’s thread: https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4179621/posts

Calling someone a RuZZian on FR is considered an insult.
Calling someone a Comrade on FR is considered an insult.

Summarizing this war:

A tragedy for Ukraine.
A disaster for RuZZia.
A strategic win for the USA. The biggest winner of the war.

“More than three decades after Reagan left office, most Republicans still believe that America is a force for good.”

https://archive.ph/PfqcS


2 posted on 09/03/2023 7:33:18 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

NICE! NICE! NICE!

“The 🇺🇦Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 attack UAV destroyed the 🇷🇺Russian KS-701 Tunets boat in the northwestern part of the Black Sea during an attempt to disembark enemy personnel”

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1698328413306495153


3 posted on 09/03/2023 7:33:35 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

“The Unpredictable Dictators”

“Why It’s So Hard to Forecast Authoritarian Aggression”

“Until the week before it happened, most people refused to believe that Russia would attack Ukraine. Despite repeated warnings from the Biden administration and widespread evidence that Moscow’s troops were massing on Ukraine’s borders, it was difficult to accept that Russian President Vladimir Putin would try conquering Europe’s largest state. “He won’t be initiating an escalation,” said French President Emmanuel Macron on February 8, just 16 days before the invasion. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was also caught off-guard, saying at the end of January that Biden’s claims of a coming invasion were simply “panic.” The German government was so convinced Russia would not attack that its chief intelligence official was in Kyiv on the day the war began and had to be whisked out by German security personnel.

The invasion of Ukraine is not the first time that officials incorrectly dismissed warnings that a state would strike its neighbor. In 1973, Israeli policymakers rejected reports that Egyptian President Anwar Sadat planned to attack the Sinai, citing the fact that his air force could not strike deep behind their lines. In 1979, U.S. President Jimmy Carter did not believe Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping’s warning that China might invade Vietnam because Deng’s statement did not comport with Carter’s worldview. And until the 1991 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait actually began, the United States was convinced that President Saddam Hussein would not attack, even though facts on the ground indicated otherwise.

There is a reason officials fail to anticipate foreign misadventures. Policymakers and analysts typically use a “rational actor model” to make predictions, and per its name, the model holds that policymakers will act rationally. It predicts that leaders will pursue defined goals after carefully searching for all available information and weighing the costs of different actions. But people are prone to make mistakes, and so this model is of limited use when forecasting what governments will do. It does an especially poor job at predicting the behavior of autocrats, who can pursue illogical ideas without domestic pushback.

This insight holds important implications for the way the United States and other democracies think about how to confront their adversaries. It is particularly critical for policymakers considering Beijing’s plans for Taiwan. It is unlikely that China has the military capabilities needed to take the island, which would require carrying out the largest amphibious operation in history. As a result, most analysts tend to believe an invasion is unlikely anytime soon. But this line of thinking assumes that Chinese leader Xi Jinping knows it would be impossible to seize and hold Taiwan without paying an enormously high price. In other words, it assumes that Xi is a rational actor when, in reality, he may not be.

Instead, surrounded by supplicants, Xi could persuade himself that a war for Taiwan would be fast. He could believe, as Putin did with Ukrainians, that Chinese troops would be welcomed by many Taiwanese people. He could decide that neither the United States nor its allies would come to the island’s defense. These assumptions are plainly wrong, but Xi would not be the first leader to make decisions that are disastrously incorrect. Washington, then, needs to be ready for a Chinese attack on Taiwan—even if it defies common sense.”

https://archive.ph/Y4unn


4 posted on 09/03/2023 7:34:02 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

“Brace yourselves, because russians have once again showcased unparalleled innovation. What you are looking at is a satellite image featuring a TU-95 strategic bomber covered with car tires. According to them, this should protect strategic bombers from drones”

https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1698302027552436366


5 posted on 09/03/2023 7:34:16 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

“A good view of the Russian defensive trench line near Novoprokopivka-Verbove which is being targeted by Ukrainian artillery and mortars.”

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1698297890525868431


6 posted on 09/03/2023 7:34:28 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

“Drone delivery system for a TM-62 mine with a grenade fuse. That is 7kg of explosives...”

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1698312653901373667


7 posted on 09/03/2023 7:34:39 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

“Staromlynivka, Russian forces have been attempting to install dragon’s teeth defenses in the town. Unfortunately for them, Ukrainian FPV loitering munitions continue to heavily operate in the area.”

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1698160935154688307


8 posted on 09/03/2023 7:34:50 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

Can’t park there

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698332095720956410


9 posted on 09/03/2023 7:35:05 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

Let me hide under this stick

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698322489888182310


10 posted on 09/03/2023 7:35:17 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: PIF

Good RuZZians

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1697986223275393312

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698072542693441612

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698054807846629557

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698339609799766320

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698328067175768106

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698315964364775595

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698297634274918464

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698256983835439193

https://twitter.com/666_mancer/status/1698243498934165722


11 posted on 09/03/2023 7:35:30 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Apparently, the ruzzians are trying to prevent the tungsten pellets from penetrating the fuel tanks in the wings.

Too funny.


12 posted on 09/03/2023 7:42:09 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Fighters of the Dzhokhar Dudayev peacekeeping battalion, the ADAM reconnaissance group, together with the soldiers of the Armed Forces of the 102nd brigade, inflicted fire damage on the enemy in the Zaporizhzhia direction.

The intended targets were defeated, the summer day for the enemy really became hot. Reconnaissance, artillery, FPV calculations, all worked smoothly and confidently.

Join and destroy!

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1698235355755843742

FPV calculations!

At 19 seconds on the video, a quadcopter is being launched. It looks like the quadcopter pilot is co-located with the infantry troops.

13 posted on 09/03/2023 7:44:05 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Several Russian channels report about a deteriorating situation south of Vuhledar near Novomaiors'ke-Yehorivka axis. Increased artillery is reported while also noticing an accumulation of forces and the usage of reconnaisance UAV's.

https://twitter.com/DanilaCodrin/status/1698251490786238879/


14 posted on 09/03/2023 7:46:25 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: SpeedyInTexas
⚡️Russian media: Oil depot on fire in Saint Petersburg.

Local Russian media Fontanka reported a fire at the Ruchi oil depot in Saint Petersburg on Sept. 3, with photos showing pillars of smoke rising above the site.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1698266448584401049


15 posted on 09/03/2023 7:47:39 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: SpeedyInTexas

I’ve thought for a long time that the most likely, “rational” strategy for China vis Taiwan is a blockade.

No matter how irrational Xi turns out to be, the fundamentals of the Taiwanese situation make an invasion highly unlikely. The Chinese can’t realistically suppress the Taiwanese artillery, which is very numerous, and can cover all viable landing beaches with tremendous firepower. An airborne (parachute) or helicopter assault would be even more suicidal.

But China can probably starve out Taiwan, if it deems the cost to its trade and economy tolerable.


16 posted on 09/03/2023 7:48:32 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: FtrPilot

It might work, to a degree, against drones with small warheads.


17 posted on 09/03/2023 7:49:51 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: FtrPilot

If that is their plan I see lots of “holes” in it


18 posted on 09/03/2023 7:52:18 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Section 1 of 6 - Ukraine: Military Situation Update - Sept 2, 2023.

••Denotes Transcribed Dialogue. Extras are just that - from other sites, or my comments marked (Edit: .... ) or { } or [ ].


Section 2:
Reporting From Ukraine:
Note: other versions of this report are found elsewhere on FR, but this is guaranteed to be the complete transcript - unlike the others.
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU

[ Last Gasps. Russians Deploy Last Reserves to Cracking Defense ]

==
Reporting From Ukraine, Section 2A:
Day 556: Sep 02

Today, there is a lot of news from the south.

First of all, Ukrainians conducted a marine drone strike in the vicinity of the Kerch Bridge in Crimea.

However, the target of the strike was not the bridge itself but rather the Russian Black Sea Fleet that was patrolling the area.

Russian sources reported that Ukrainians used 3 drones in their night attack on the warship Pytlivyi and that one of them was close to exploding near the ship itself.

Some sources mentioned that the drones attacked from the area with a lot of civilian ships to complicate the identification of the drone.

But what is even more interesting is that Russian soldiers reported that they saw a Ukrainian aerial drone that was surveilling the area from Cape Takil.

All these facts strongly indicate that the strike was organized and conducted from the territory of the Russian Federation or Crimea.

Such a development shows that Russian security level is low, not only in the regions that are far from the front lines and live normal everyday lives, but even on those territories that are relatively close to the front line and have objects of strategic significance that Ukrainians are constantly striking.

Cape Takil is only 20 km from the Kerch Bridge that has been damaged multiple times over the last year, so, as some Russian analysts mentioned, either Ukrainians have an unlimited audacity, or the Russian level of security is indeed pitiful.

But the biggest news comes from the Tokmak direction.

After the loss of Robotnye, Russian sources started circulating information about the Russian plans and claimed that the retreat from Robotnye was done to allow Ukrainians to get deep inside the pocket to close in in the future with as many Ukrainians as possible.

Russians also conducted an information operation and released fake documents to claim that Ukrainians received an order to kill every Russian soldier that surrenders.

The goal of this information operation is to scare Russian troops and force them to fight till the end, instead of surrendering.

Unfortunately for Russians, today, they lost the most powerful fortification south of Robotnye anyway.

At noon, Russian sources confirmed that Ukrainians breached the so-called fortification “Boot”.

If we look at the topographic map, we can see that this position is also located on a hill, making it a formidable strong point.

Interestingly, Ukrainians also did it after they deprioritized this direction and started focusing on Verbove.

The reason why Ukrainians still managed to establish control over this position lies in the fact that the commander of the units on the ground was very patient and closely monitored how and when Russians were rotating their troops.

When he collected all the necessary information, he prepared a small Ukrainian assault unit that caught them by surprise right during rotation and established total control over the fortification in minutes.

Some Russian sources claimed that this was the last powerful Ukrainian attack because there are no more troops and equipment left, while others gave a milder prognosis and claimed that Ukrainians have forces maximum for one more powerful push.

The Ukrainian side indirectly responded to this information operation by releasing a video with dozens of Western tanks, claiming that they still have a lot of resources and that Russians are yet to see a powerful attack.

And this is partially true because, so far, Ukrainians were facing extremely dense minefields that they needed to slowly and methodically pass and de-mine.

But now, as Ukrainians already breached the second line of defense at least at 2 points, some Russian analysts started talking about the possibility of a more extensive use of tanks and heavy equipment, especially when Ukrainians get closer to the third line of defense south of Verbove.

And the Russian High Command seems to understand that Russian forces may not be able to withstand the pressure, especially given that the pace of Ukrainian advancement is gradually but steadily increasing.

That is why, as reported by the Head of Ukrainian Intelligence Kyrylo Budanov, the Russian military deployed elements of the newly formed 25th Combined Arms Army to the front.

Interestingly, this new Army was created as a part of a long-term objective to increase the size of the military.

However, due to the horrible situation on the front, Russians had to urgently send them to the front.

According to Ukrainian Intelligence, the 25th Combined Arms Army would not be combat-ready until at least 2024.

Right now, the formation is severely understaffed, not near the strength of two divisions, and, on top of that, did not complete the training.

The 25th Army is supposed to substitute forces in the Luhansk region, while severely degraded but, at least, experienced troops from the 41st Army are being redeployed toward Tokmak.


Section 3:
Denys Says:
https://www.youtube.com/@DenysDavydov

==
[ Ukraine Expands The Bridgehead in The South | Surovikin Defense Fails ]

Denys Says, Section 3A:
104th Airborne Assault Regiment from the 76th Airborne Division now stationed south of Solodka Balka defense lines as of the 1st.

==
Denys Says, Section 3B:
Two more parts of the Surovikin Line remain to be penetrated. The bridgehead continues to expand in an easterly direction in order to move forward.

==
Denys says, Section 3C:
Denys contemplates opening a X (twitter) account to combat the rampant Pro Russian propaganda on it.


Section 4:
Denys Davydov Telegram Channel
https://t.me/s/pilotblog

==
Pilot blog Section 4A:
Ukrainian Army broke through the first line of defense of Russian troops in the south, commander Alexander Tarnavsky told the Guardian

According to him, Ukrainian troops are now expanding the front of the breakthrough in both directions.

In the center of the offensive, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are finishing the destruction of enemy units that cover the retreat of the Russian troops behind the second line of defense.

According to Tarnavsky, during the construction of three lines of defense on the southern front, Russia spent 60% of its forces on equipping the first of them, and only 20% on the second.

==
Pilot blog Section 4B:
Russia delays mobilization by recruiting foreigners from Central Asia for war, British intelligence

In Armenia and Kazakhstan, ads were seen on the Internet that offered $5,140 in starting cash and wages starting at $1,973.

At the same time, there are at least 6 million migrants from Central Asia in Russia, whom the Kremlin probably sees as potential recruits.

==
In St. Petersburg, the Strumka oil depot is on fire, explosions are heard during the fire
https://t.me/pilotblog/6503?single

==
Pilot blog Section 4C:
Odessa region (Ukraine) was attacked by 25 drones at night

On the night of September 2-3, the Russian army launched 25 drone strikes on the Odessa region, 22 of them were shot down.

This is reported by the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

A hit in the port infrastructure was confirmed, two victims are known - port employees.
https://t.me/pilotblog/6506?single

==
Pilot blog Section 4D:
GUR showed a Russian pilot who escaped from Russia and handed over the Mi-8 helicopter to Ukraine.

As part of the special operation “Synytsia”, which lasted for 6 months with the help of the pilot GUR managed to capture the Mi-8AMTSh helicopter and the equipment it was transporting.

Together with the pilot, there were two crew members on board, they were eliminated by the GUR fighters.

“No one wants this war. You’ll see when Ukraine wins, it’s just a matter of time”, the pilot said.

(Photo of the Russian pilot who handed over the Mi-8AMTSh helicopter to Ukraine)
GUR

Probably there will be the interview with the pilot.
https://t.me/pilotblog/6510

==
Pilot blog Section 4E:
Criminal Russia:
Footage of a shooting between police and illegal oil miners in Buryatia on July 26.

The officers who arrived at the call found a group of 40 people who resisted the arrest, began to throw stones and shoot.

The police returned fire and were able to detain 27 men, two of whom were injured.
https://t.me/pilotblog/6509


Section 5:
Kremlin snuffbox
https://t.me/s/kremlin_secrets

==
Kremlin snuffbox, Section 5A:
Vladimir Putin again announced that he was ready to complete the NWO in Ukraine

He made this statement in a telephone conversation with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, our source in the Kremlin said.

The President repeated a proposal he had previously conveyed through African leaders: he wants personal security guarantees, including the annulment of a warrant for his arrest issued by a court in The Hague.

In exchange, Vladimir Vladimirovich is ready to stop hostilities.

Moreover, the President specified his proposal - he said that he was not opposed to withdrawing troops from part of the territories that Ukraine considers its own, and was ready “for serious bargaining.”

And he clarified: “All the same, Kherson and several other territories will have to be removed from our Constitution.”

Putin asked to convey his proposals personally to Joe Biden.

He is also ready to find a “replacement” for himself: to identify several representatives of the Russian elites who will be appointed responsible for the war with Ukraine and will be punished, perhaps even in an international court.

No specific names were given, but, according to the source, the president has candidates, in particular, among the military.

Modi promised to pass on proposals to Biden and clarify why Putin has not yet received a response to his previous initiative to end the NWO.

The source added that the intentions of Vladimir Vladimirovich to solve something with the special operation and receive personal security guarantees were strengthened by the rebellion of the “Wagnerites” led by Yevgeny Prigozhin.

The President wants to personally punish Prigozhin, although right now he can’t do anything ( we wrote about this ). And he is preparing an “alternate airfield” in case the punishment fails to be carried out, and new riots begin in Russia.

At the same time, in many personal conversations and public appearances, Putin continues to express confidence in the success of the NWO.

To questions about why the president needs such a double game, all our interlocutors in the Kremlin answer that these are “difficult times.”
https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/2407

==
Kremlin snuffbox, Section 5B:
Putin will again try to end the CBO on his own terms and prepared a message to Biden

We wrote that Vladimir Vladimirovich is ready to talk about the completion of the SVO in exchange for the cancellation of the court order in The Hague for his arrest.

The President tried several times to convey this message to the West , but so far he has not succeeded. It seems that he decided on a new attempt to convey this idea - primarily to the United States.

Putin considered the meeting with Erdogan to be a good reason for this.

Through the Turkish president, he decided to convey a message to Joe Biden.

A source in the Kremlin revealed to us the main theses of this document, which has already been prepared.

First, Putin promises to cease fire and complete the SVO as soon as the warrant for his arrest is cancelled.

In this case, he is ready (at least, as stated in the document) to withdraw troops from the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions and stop attacks in the Kupyansk direction.

As for the Crimea, the DPR and the LPR, the message proposes to hold negotiations on this issue.

The President definitely wants to leave Crimea to Russia, but is “ready for a discussion on the issues of the peninsula.”

Secondly, Putin wants Russia to have no claims and demands to pay reparations to Ukraine after the completion of the NWO. He would also like the lifting of sanctions, at least in stages.

Third (and this is the main requirement), Putin wants to “return to the club of influential world leaders.”

He considers his meeting with Biden to be a necessary condition for this. Moreover, according to Vladimir Vladimirovich, it must pass either in Russia or in the USA.

We clarified with a high-ranking source close to Putin whether it is true that he is ready to complete the SVO, because now it doesn’t look very similar.

“Vladimir Vladimirovich is tired, there is less patriotism and militancy.

And the news from the front is not encouraging. So everything is logical,” our interlocutor replied.


Section 6:
BRIEFLY
https://t.me/briefsmi

==
BRIEFLY, Section 6A:
Professor, Guardian columnist John Naughton:
The Starlink system, developed by Elon Musk, has become a salvation for Ukraine, especially after its armed forces were blinded, deafened and numb as a result of a cyber attack.

The system, part of Musk’s SpaceX venture, has played a critical role in providing Internet connectivity to Ukraine’s armed forces, hospitals, businesses and humanitarian organizations, which, according to Ukraine’s Deputy Prime Minister, has ultimately saved thousands of lives.

However, it is a matter of concern that such an important service is controlled by a fickle and unstable billionaire with a conflict of interest.

Musk has previously made questionable decisions about using Starlink and proposed controversial geopolitical solutions.

His significant influence in low-orbit space, where he owns more than half of the active satellites and plans to increase his share tenfold, raises questions about the possible consequences of his future decisions in this and other geopolitical conflicts.

This situation highlights how risky it is to rely on one unpredictable person for matters of global importance. #opinion #USA
https://t.me/briefsmi/9101

[ Another reason why the deep state hates Musk. ]

==
BRIEFLY, Section 6B:
BBC:
Pro-war propagandists in Russia, known as “Z-bloggers”, make money from military propaganda, earning significant income from social media advertising highlighting the Ukrainian conflict.

These people share creepy videos, false claims about Ukrainian President Zelensky, and ads on Telegram.

The increase in the number of users has led to the growth of Telegram’s advertising market, and influential users have taken advantage of this by selling advertising space to companies targeted at their young audience.

The BBC Disinformation Unit conducted an undercover investigation posing as hoteliers interested in advertising to find out the fees charged by these agents of influence.

They found that top military correspondents such as Aleksandr Kots and Semyon Pegov (WarGonzo) ranged from $560-860 (54,000-82,000 rubles) per post to $1,970 (190,000 rubles) per post, well above average monthly salary in Russia.

Some Z bloggers have a background in military reporting for the state media, while others, like former powerlifter Maryana Naumova, have no professional training.

Influencer content, including exclusive footage from the Russian trenches, attracts a diverse audience and encourages young Russians to support the conflict.

There is evidence of the effectiveness of such propaganda, as some Russians, after watching videos of influential people, voluntarily went to fight in Ukraine.

Telegram has said it is the last platform through which Russians can access independent media and international news without censorship, and that it complies with international sanctions by blocking Russian state media where it is prohibited by law.

Meanwhile, President Putin praised the efforts of Z bloggers, appointing some of them to official positions and inviting them to the Kremlin for a talk, emphasizing the importance of the information space as a critical battlefield.

[ Now we know why certain Pro-Putin trolls are so active and strident: they get paid per post. The will even get paid for their loud protests of denial. Further, this explains why this creatures have expanded into most other sectors of FR - a very lucrative gig. ]


19 posted on 09/03/2023 8:00:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: blitz128

“If that is their plan I see lots of “holes” in it”

You made me laugh while I was drinking hot coffee!


20 posted on 09/03/2023 8:09:05 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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