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US-Ukraine Brass Write off Counteroffensive After 57.000 Casualties, Focus on Force-Drafting New Conscripts for 2024
Gateway Pundit ^ | 28 Aug 23 | Richard Abelson

Posted on 08/28/2023 5:28:11 PM PDT by delta7

NATO military chief US Gen Christopher Cavoli and British Admiral Sir Tony Radakin traveled to the Polish-Ukrainian border ten days ago for a crisis meeting with the Ukrainian chief military commander Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, for what was privately billed as “a council of war”, The Guardian reported.

The meeting was “no ordinary discussion”, The Guardian writes. “Zaluzhnyi brought his entire command team with him on the roughly 300-mile journey from Kyiv. The aim of the five-hour meeting was to help reset Ukraine’s military strategy – top of the agenda was what to do about the halting progress of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, along with battle plans for the gruelling winter ahead plus longer-term strategy as the war inevitably grinds into 2024.”

British sources are “reluctant to say much about the outcome of the meeting at the border,” The Guardian security editor in Kyiv Dan Sabbagh writes. “But the indications from the west is that the strategy has changed as a result of the discussions. “I think you can see they are focusing on the Zaporizhzhia front,” said one insider, amid reports of fresh Ukrainian attacks aimed at the city of Tokmak, an initial step towards reaching the Sea of Azov, thereby cutting the land bridge to Crimea.”

Since June 4, Ukrainian forces have been engaged in a bloody and mostly fruitless counteroffensive. Russia estimated Ukrainian losses at 43,000 early August, and has since claimed over 14,000 Ukrainian casualties in daily briefings, putting total Ukrainian losses in the counteroffensive at over 57,000 and in the whole war at over 400,000. Russian losses are estimated at around 50,000 men.

Top brass in the USA and NATO now fear the Ukrainian armed forces are “incapable of breaking through Russia’s defensive lines to reach Melitopol and the Sea of Azov,” Russia’s Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes.

As the end of the fighting season in Ukraine approaches, Western brass are “nudging their proteges in the Ukrainian armed forces toward making preparations for 2024”, Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes.

“The new strategy of the Ukrainian armed forces will prioritize the formation and deployment of new human reserves. Kiev’s new military plan for 2024 also calls for developing full-fledged combat-ready aviation units, in cooperation with the Pentagon and NATO. Ukraine has been force-conscripting young men off the street and sending them into the “Meat Grinder” of the three-tiered Russian defences with little training or leadership.

The longer Ukraine’s counteroffensive goes on, the more difficult it is for the US to maintain its support in political terms, Bloomberg reported. If fighting grinds to an impasse over the winter, “it’s a really big problem, there’s going to be war fatigue,” Samantha de Bendern, associate fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, told Bloomberg. “The U.S. is going to be less and less interested in what’s happening in Ukraine and it’s going to be more and more difficult for Europeans to convince the Americans that Ukraine is an American problem.”

Bloomberg noted Russia has enough ammunition for at another year of fighting, with the Kremlin deploying new troops on the front lines. “More than two months into its counteroffensive, Kiev has made only tactical advances against heavily dug-in Russian forces, despite having committed many units trained and armed by the US and Europe for the operation. The window for further significant actions is narrowing as wet and cold weather looms in the autumn,” Bloomberg wrote.


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To: allendale

...and without aircover.


41 posted on 08/28/2023 7:40:01 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you filthy animal! )
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To: wildcard_redneck

Almost a year ago:
Putin is fleeing the war! Russian people raised the flag of rebellion!

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4096570/posts

Today:

Update from Ukraine | The battle for the South Ukraine Expands the counterattack | Ruzzia loses it

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4178475/posts


42 posted on 08/28/2023 7:52:28 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: wildcard_redneck

Why would you post sick crap like that? What is wrong with you and what is your agenda?
There is no reason to tolerate unstable people like you.


43 posted on 08/28/2023 8:18:38 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

I am just saying that the Zeeper cult will be devastated by the failure of their lord and savior George Washington and , like all cults, will not handle it well.


44 posted on 08/28/2023 8:22:49 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Uh there is something wrong with you and I don’t think I’m the first to tell you that.
It’s sad you are here inflicting your problems on others.


45 posted on 08/28/2023 8:37:55 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams
"Uh there is something wrong with you and I don't think I'm the first to tell you that.
It's sad you are here inflicting your problems on others."

Projection. Zeepers run around this forum like bloodthirsty lunatic screaming about RuZZians and orcs and it is damn hard to put up with.

46 posted on 08/28/2023 9:33:55 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck

You’re fantasizing just like your very disturbing fantasy about everyone who you disagree with being a cult that commits suicide.

I’m sure family members have tried to help you. Your problems go far beyond a specific issue here.


47 posted on 08/28/2023 10:01:07 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Go relax and consult your war maps where the great summer offensive amounted to diddly squat.


48 posted on 08/28/2023 10:12:52 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Please remove me from your ping list, per FR rules. Thank you.


49 posted on 08/29/2023 2:19:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

I don’t have a list, I typed it from memory. :)


50 posted on 08/29/2023 4:10:31 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: delta7

Ukraine is realizing the cost of teaming up with Biden and there is no honor among thieves.


51 posted on 08/29/2023 7:45:33 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: EEGator

There is no southern border.


52 posted on 08/29/2023 7:52:25 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: yuleeyahoo

Exactly.


53 posted on 08/29/2023 8:03:27 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Vaduz

Ukraine is realizing the cost of teaming up with Biden and there is no honor among thieves.
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Well said…. But I see a slight difference- a corrupted Biden is teaming up with a corrupted Zelensky, a big difference to me.


54 posted on 08/29/2023 10:08:13 AM PDT by delta7
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To: All

I watched the video “Modern Conflicts: The Battle of Bakhmut” on the Nebula Channel. It was posted originally on August 18, 2023. It’s part of the Real Life Lore Series. Some Real Life Lore videos appear on YouTube, But others, like The Battle of Bakhmut do not, for various reasons.

Here is a description of the video: For over a year, the Russian and Ukrainian armies threw just about everything they had into a massive battle for control over the small city of Bakhmut in the east of Ukraine. The fight for the city gradually evolved into the most significant and most catastrophic battle fought in Europe since the Second World War, with tens of thousands of troops and hundreds of tanks committed by both sides.

This is the link where I watched the video:
https://nebula.tv/videos/reallifelore-modern-conflicts-the-battle-of-bakhmut


55 posted on 08/30/2023 12:16:14 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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