Posted on 08/22/2023 3:48:11 PM PDT by Rummyfan
The clip that Cuccinelli was talking about is just the latest evidence of that.
FAlse. There are some who are like that, but what Governor DeSantis was saying is that most of us including most Trump people) know we can't succeed if we operate as that kind of movement.
He's talking about the people who think that getting indicted is some form of political D chess, a martial arts move on the Deep State. Even when Trump is clearly wrong -- whcih everyone is once in a while -- they praise him for his brilliance and cleverness and beat up on anyone who says that maybe that wesn't his best move.
DeSantis and many others can see that. We cannot let that small group of people control the Republican Party or we will lose. Bigly.
Exactly. They may be right or they may be wrong, but that is what they’re thinking.
Do oyu know the penalties for election fraud? Do you think anyone other than some dumb amateur is willing to take that risk?
There were irregularities. Some of them look very suspicious. Enough to chnage the overall result? I’ll need proof.
Time to release the Kraken.
I’ve heard all tha tbefore. It certainly looks irregular. None of it proves fraud.
What, specifically?
He was obviously talking aobut a small but loud segment of Trump supporters.
They did not report it accurately. They took a snippet out of context to creaste an impression that they know to be false, so as to hurt DeSantis, whom they see as the biggest thret to Trump’s nomination.
Right. Keep telling yourself that.
Your post 14 -Must Read. Well said.
Also, if the other candidates would wake TF up and see what's happening to this nation, they would all get out of the primary, unite behind President Trump and call out the Soviet show trials against Trump, Rudy Gulliani and the others in Georgia.
Imagine they could even shine light on the J6 political prisoners rotting in prison, for going on 3 years, (some STILL haven't even been charged).
They could do this, (and help save America), but, they will go through with tonight's exercise in gaslighting the public, that "Everything is fine-This is a normal election", that they are calling a debate. 🙄
And Trump didn't need to be at their so called debate either. He's already way ahead in the polls and PROVEN what he can do as President. Looking forward to the Tucker interview.
My 2 cents.
Start demanding that the courts hear the proof. I would love nothing more than for the truth to finally get the opportunity to be heard. But the Biden Administration only allows the government to strongarm the opposition to be silenced, because the truth can't be allowed to be heard.
If you can't see that without proof, then there is something seriously wrong with your critical thinking skills.
But I specifically asked for you to provide proof, that it was a fair & free election like everyone is saying. I want the proof of that. I want all ballots to be examined forensically, with people to go to the homes of people that live there to speak with them directly about if they cast their vote for Biden, and I expect you to be able to prove that Biden got 81 million votes legitimately. Otherwise, how can you tell if the true winner of the 2020 election is occupying the White House. Surely you do not want anyone but the rightful winner to be making decisions for this nation, correct?
So, please provide me with your proof that Biden won the election and that all of the anomalies are legitimate as well.
You see, if it were an honest election, it would have behooved all involved to be certain it was the fair election they claim it was. But that is not what has happened at all.
We know that Constitutionally, that it is the state legislatures who are to be in control of elections in a state, but that is not what happened in several states. The governors with state supreme courts ruling in the Democrat governors states, allowed changes to be made to how the election was held, even against what the state constitution dictated..
So answer me this; Why are you so dogmatic about Trump proving his case, but you accept that Biden won without him proving he did so?
Are you a never-Trumper? Is that why you demand more from Trump than you do from Biden?
There is overwhelming evidence of fraud, and the fraud was perpetrated by both parties. Why is it you go out of your way to accept Biden but not Trump? Is it because the election was called for Biden?
Perhaps you also believe Biden is as clean as a whistle and these claims flying around about Biden & his son are just lies. Is that the case? If it isn't then what makes you not believe that Biden won by fraud?
I think it was worth at least several hundreds of dollars, and thanks for the kind words. 🙂
BTW, I obviously agree with you 150% percent. 🙂
You’re the one making an allegation. The burden of proof is on you.
Honestly though you are making the claim that there is no election fraud. I presented you a small portion of the evidence that there is sufficient cause to question the true outcome of the 2020 election, which you rejected.
So now it's your turn to present the evidence you have that supports your claim that there is no election fraud, or at best not enough to change the election results.
Court cases always begin with the prosecutor presenting their case against the defendant. I allowed that to not happen here, because you countered my claims with your denial. That's fair, but now it's your turn to present your evidence that debunks my claims. BTW, this is something that has not happened yet, but what I think will happen. You keep your eyes & ears open.
Try not to keep using your weasel obfuscations like Joe Biden & the Uni-party weasels have done for almost three years now.
Be a man for a change. I really do not expect you to be a man, because I don't believe that you can be a man. Because being a weasel is what you are in reality.
And it works. It's got you all fired up, doesn't it? They know that attacking him is attacking his base. They, rightly or wrongly, believe he will lose in the general. They just need to piss off his base enough to keep it going. Look who else they attack. Not Krispy. Not pence. They go after the number two (or three, depending on the poll), DeSantis.
“And it works. It’s got you all fired up, doesn’t it?”
No, no, no. See, you wizards of smart need to climb down off your high horse. I only mentioned it in response to another stupid comment another poster made.
I have not watched CNN ever, although I am aware of what they are. You can’t comprehend, you especially, how little regard I have for CNN and would not waste a scintilla of emotion on what they say.
I am fired up about Trump because he is the only president since Reagan who is actually trying to save the country.
Of course there was fraud. There’s fraud in every election.
The 1960 election was stolen from Nixon by the Daley machine. He didn’t spend hte nest 4-8 years obsessing about it.
Every election has some degree of fraud. No matter how much we work to stop it, you neve rquite get to zero. But while Antrim County was a total disaster, it wasn’t enough to swing Michigan. The stack of ballots that was run through the machine twice weren’t enough to swing the state.
The real problem was the COVID “emergency” provisions that contravened the method of voting selected by the Legislatures of severl stte, which is unconstitutional. But none of ht eCongressional objectors went after that.
Trump had big leads, and they evaporated overnight while they were counting & tabulating after closing down & sending Republican observers home.
There was a truck driver from New York who swore under testimony that he drove what turned out to be a semi-truck from New York to Pa. full of ballots. There are thousands of these stories of fraud where people presented sworn affidavits of witnesses voter fraud. Of all of those cases only 2 were heard. Two of them DJT was victorious 1 he lost, all the rest were deemed that those bringing the cases didn't have standing. You are like these crooked judges, only you don't even realize how big a role you play in what has transpired since the election. It's people like you that allow them to keep people imprisoned for their stupidity of entering the Capitol Building, with most of them being ushered in and were very peaceful & respectful while in there. Yo are too absorbed in your belief that you are smarter than the average bear to understand how you are helping the enemies of this nation in that regard as well.
You are a person who is totally unaware of how much aid & comfort you bring to our enemies. They love that you are being their useful idiot.
I am an old man, I do not need you to tell me about JFK's vote fraud & the theft of that election in 1960, I am well aware of it. Nor do I need you to tell me about Covid's role in the theft of this election. But apparently you need to be told that this was a thought out election theft in advance in case they were unable to remove him by any other means. Not because President Trump was a terrible president, but because he was a dangerous president. He was dangerous to them, ad their nefarious plans. These are evil people who are more than willing to destroy people to enhance their life experiences. No experience is taboo for them, because they have no morals. They do not even revere the Lord who created all that we see & experience. They actually see themselves as demigods, or gods amongst men if you will.
Perhaps you think that the WEF is just a crackpot organization made up of rich people who fantasize about controlling the whole world like the crackpots who envisioned the same throughout the ages of mankind's existence who have tried to accomplish the same end result. Those who did so before caused an awful lot of pain to a great number of people before they were defeated. The same will happen with these people who are trying again also.
But most likely it will play out quite differently this time around. Because once they have come close to achieving their desired outcome, then the internal struggle between all of these people will start to gnaw at them. That's when the hierarchy battle from within begins. It's their nature to want to be the top dog, because that is who they are.
What infuriates me about you is your flippant assertion that this election was not stolen, that's it's just another example of random acts of theft that had no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of the election. You are wrong. This is not just another stolen election, this is a fight for our nation and Donald John Trump was & still is willing to fight for this nation, & people like you want to smash mouth him. You are no better than the crooked cheating lying Democrats & their RINO cohorts. In addition to him, you play a role in destroying good people who are fighting to save this nation with your flippant usage of the word Kraken used by Sidney Powell who is an honorable & good person. Something you will never be I might add. Instead you are doing the work to give credibility to these criminal lawyers unleashing lawfare against them, because once again you think you know it all, but once again you are nothing but the useful idiot as the communist referred people like you that unwittingly helped them to make their arguments.
You see, she still saw this nation as the nation that respected Law & Order, but quickly found out that was not the reality at all anymore.
What I'm trying to say, in case I am not being blunt enough for you to understand, is that you are nothing but a snarky little person who thinks highly of himself, without any justification to hold that high opinion of yourself, because you are a man-child who overvalues your own opinions. A useful idiot.
With people like you as citizens, who needs foreign enemies.
In short, you are part of the problem, & on top of it you are a snarky stupid person, who deserves what is coming down the pike. But I still want to save even you, because no human being is perfect.
If you think I am being mean, trust me, I an trying to help you help yourself & everyone around you. I do not like having to say these things, because I believe in many ways we have more in common than we find things we disagree about.
I'm trying very hard to awaken you to the reality, and make you see the truth. You are being gaslighted and you are buying into the lies, which is very dangerous for the entire world.
I am asking you to wake up & join the fight. This election was stolen & this nation is on the precipice of being destroyed & lost forever. I want to save it, & I would think every American wants to do the same. No country is perfect, but as Americans we should all be thankful, because our fore fathers indeed gave our people something special & we have squandered it.
Once it is saved though, I then want all of us to turn it into what the founding fathers had envisioned, for it truly was a gift to all of mankind, and mankind needs it if humanity is to ever proceed forward. In that process we shall also return the Lord to his rightful place within the public square as well.
So I am asking you to please wake up to the realities & understand why we must all untie behind Donald John Trump to finish his fight. we owe him that whether you understand that fact or not. Let's show them that we are not going to stand for what they have tried to do to this nation.
We shall summon the power of the Lord to make us victorious, and we shall be victorious and it shall be a sign that he is real.
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