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I am posting a link to the timeline of this fire. Andaya could be right to the extent that initially, an alarm would have put people in jeopardy. But later, this excuse becomes ludicrous. Here is a truncated timeline below the link.

Timeline: How the deadly wildfires took over Maui day by day

Before 11 p.m. A security camera at the Maui Bird Conservation Center, located in the east Maui region of Upcountry, captures a bright flash in the woods just before 11 p.m.

12:20 a.m. Just after midnight, a brush fire was reported in the Kula area in the central part of Maui, according to officials. This would become the Upcountry Maui wildfire.

6 a.m. In the early morning hours, around 6:30 a.m., a brush fire of about three acres was reported around Lahainaluna Road, which passed through this historic town of Lahaina in West Maui.

9 a.m. The fire in Lahaina was declared 100% contained just before 9 a.m., according to Maui County officials.

3 p.m. Officials report the perimeter of the Upcountry fire has spread about 1,000 acres and reached as far as Kualono Place near the Kula Lodge.

Around 5 p.m. The situation in Lahaina grows increasingly dire. The next hour becomes a collection of life-or-death decisions for those who remained in Lahaina. Video footage captures people fleeing the blaze, in some cases abandoning their cars, jumping into the ocean or pools for safety.

9:45 p.m. Mayor Richard Bissen issued an emergency proclamation in response to the fires.

1 posted on 08/18/2023 12:23:46 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise

The more I read about this guy...the less I believe he was actually qualified for the job.

They spent a fair amount of money for this siren-alarm system, but never envisioned how it would be used. There’s probably more planning and forethought in Japan or South Korea....than in Hawaii.


2 posted on 08/18/2023 12:27:44 AM PDT by pepsionice
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The Maui Emergency Administrator needs to remove the smoke alarms from his own home too.,.. and that of all his family members...


4 posted on 08/18/2023 12:35:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Ukraine matters? Yeah, it shows corrupt countries the Untied States's a hellhole that can be bought.)
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To: Enterprise

Looked this up: “Gone mauka” doesn’t mean gone crazy or berzerk, but merely that they headed uphill. Mauka means the mountainous side of a road, as opposed to Makai, which means the ocean side of a road.


6 posted on 08/18/2023 12:50:36 AM PDT by dangus
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Population reduction is like eating an elephant. One bite at a time. The Ukes and Russians are dying why not us. Maui, Chicago, yada, yada, yada. Every little bit helps folks. /s


9 posted on 08/18/2023 1:11:19 AM PDT by Equine1952
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To: Enterprise

Complex systems + diversity incompetents = catastrophic disasters.

But that is not what happened in this case.

This was a simpler risk that sensible decision making could have helped a lot.

But even here, the diversity clowns managed to do a lot of damage and get a lot of people killed unnecessarily.

Much greater disasters than this will happen in the future due to selection and promotion of these fools.


10 posted on 08/18/2023 1:20:27 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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“Had we sounded the siren that night, we were afraid that people would have gone mauka and if that was the case, then they would have gone into the fire,” said Andaya.

He's a democrat nutcase. I'm sure if his mother or family lived in the threatened area he called them on the phone and told them to get out. By law he should never be allowed to have a smoke alarm in any house he lives in the rest of his life.

11 posted on 08/18/2023 1:30:52 AM PDT by GOPJ (Ukraine matters? Yeah, it shows corrupt countries the Untied States's a hellhole that can be bought.)
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Pretty sure people were running for their lives in Lehaina at about 3:30 pm.


14 posted on 08/18/2023 1:42:16 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas, enjoy the decline)
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Progressives kill.


17 posted on 08/18/2023 2:10:16 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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Maybe using the emergency broadcast system would have been a good idea. That way you tell people what to do such as which direction to evacuate. EBS was used recently in my area for a microburst and it helped us prepare for it. You then train people that when the siren goes off to turn on the radio for directions.


21 posted on 08/18/2023 3:17:44 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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Even if the sirens worked, they still couldn’t get out because the police wasn’t letting anyone out


22 posted on 08/18/2023 3:26:22 AM PDT by roving (👌⚓)
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This person will be amply rewarded for his service to the deep state and their associated land developers.


23 posted on 08/18/2023 3:33:17 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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Update...

Maui emergency chief Herman Andaya resigns, effective immediately

24 posted on 08/18/2023 3:50:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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Bull. They had an app as well. They could sound the alarms to get attention. Send a warning on the app like they did recently by mistake and scared everyone. People would have seen and smelled the smoke.


25 posted on 08/18/2023 4:13:48 AM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru Him all things are possible.)
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Serious leftard retardation going on there, if you left the house at 11:00 at night it would be DARK out and you could see fire(s) miles away. The real question going on is what are they covering up, or maybe who in this case.


27 posted on 08/18/2023 4:30:14 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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From the article:

“The fire can be a mile or more from your house, but in a minute or two, it can be at your house,” said Fire Assistant Chief Jeff Giesea. “Burning airborne materials can light fires a great distance away from the main body of fire.”

Missing from the article is information on the wind. When did the wind increase to 80 mph? The 80 mph wind caused the fire’s destructiveness. What else could explain the total burnout of such a large area in a time too short for people to escape?

Did the emergency services take actions assuming more normal winds? Were the high winds a freak occurrence?


30 posted on 08/18/2023 5:44:53 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Arrest them for MURDER


31 posted on 08/18/2023 5:50:12 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Typical inept Democrat official. Sirens would have awoken people to get up and check outside, the smoke would be clearly seen. They would have had hours instead of minutes to escape.

The guy had NO experience, kinda like Pete Buttegeig has no transportation experience.

37 posted on 08/18/2023 7:03:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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