Posted on 08/16/2023 8:56:20 AM PDT by Red Badger
The sad part is that 45% of republicans don’t understand the battle we are in and how we got here.
My guess:
55% hate the GOPe and uniparty
45% only focus on who can win the general and would support McCain, Romney, McCarthy, Ryan or whomever. (Anyone but Trump)
Today, DeSantis is the favorite because the rest are worse. But DeSantis is only 10% above Pence or others. The only chance these candidates have is if Trump is removed from the ballot. 45% will be fine with this, 55% will not. Not a winning formula to win the general.
DeSantis is about as good on the issues as the other would-be nominees, but so far he appears to be inept as a campaigner. His strategy seems to be to engage in routine Trump bashing and wait around until the regime puts him in prison. Then, presumably, he thinks all those Trump voters will come his way.
If he really thinks he can profit from such a tragic turn of events, then he really is delusional. They may get Trump after all, but the rest of that scenario ain’t gonna happen. To any Trump supporter, DeSantis will be seen as playing the role of the vulture candidate, and betrayer of the President. Nobody can win anything that way.
Begs the question, do you have to be a good campaigner to be a good President?
Of course he sucks as a President, but did the Rats care about how good a campaigner Brandon was?
“Former President Donald Trump is shattering records of support for a single candidate in the GOP race to take on President Joe Biden next year, with the latest poll showing him garnering support from nearly two of every three likely primary voters.”
If all these sham indictments are meant to peal off GOP Trump supporters there are some mighty disappointed libs right now. The motive might also be to get him physically off the ticket, or tied up in court too much to campaign.
When you hear the actual charges from an honest pundit they amount to a desperate house of cards barely balancing. And a plethora of less than legal maneuvers like the one that sank hunter’s sweat heart deal.
The only thing better than a disappointed dem is one that was filled with hope moments before.
This is what kills me about DeSantis. He's a great governor, but America as a free nation is under existential threat from tyrannical globalists from without, and head to toe corruption from within, and he has neither a coherent message, nor the ability to convey it in any compelling way.
In short, he's just not up to the job of convincing Americans of our error and leading America away from the cliff.
This moment in history calls for an inspirational Moses figure, not a mid-level manager type.
I agree...The others here are whistling passed the proverbial grave yard. There is no way Trump can win a general election. We need Trumpism, without Trump.
Democrat lawfare is designed to take Brandon out of the news cycle, firm up Trump’s base support to guarantee him the nomination and remind some voters of how much they dislike Trump.
He’s got people advising him who don’t have his best interests at heart.
Well outside of the possibility of DeSantis, where is it?
I won't decide between DeSantis and Trump until next year, but if it is Trump, people need to put aside their misgivings about the Man, and fight with the Army we have, not the one we want.
That is exactly all of this happening with the BS indictments.
The Rats smell the ultimate downfall of the U.S., in order to reshape it in their own image.
And that image is diseased and rancid.
Blindly following Trump off an electoral cliff isn’t a formula for winning an election either. It’s like yall have developed a double standard in your brains. Supporting another candidate, other than Trump, because you like his stances, personality, work ethic, etc. is disloyal & a real problem for r our side in winning the general election. Meanwhile, yalls absolute support for only Trump, regardless of viability, effectiveness, and trash talking about any other candidate isn’t held to the same standard! I’ve voted for Trump twice, but I also realize that we need a broader movement than Donald Trump in order to succeed 🙄
In a weird way, you stated the very same thing I posted except I wasn’t emotional about it.
The party is split evenly, no republican will win the general.
If…….the Republican voters were united, we might have a chance but would still probably lose. Why? Because Independents outnumber both parties. Dems continue to alienate independents but they don’t switch to republican. Why? BECAUSE THEY STAND FOR NOTHING, AGREE ON NOTHING and have no interest in growing the party.
Meanwhile, we continue infighting and put zero pressure on anyone except Trump/DeSantis. They aren’t the problem, the party is the problem.
The problem with Trump is that he’s ultimately most concerned with himself. We get a daily barrage of him talking about himself. Overwhelmingly, the fights he gets in aren’t about defending the constitution or fighting for the future of the country- they’re about me, me, me! He throws a few bones out to keep so many folks on our side believing that he’s fighting on our behalf. When it really comes right down to it, he could have been disciplined and strategic and succeeded in things if he really wanted to. I’m not sure he’s capable of seeing past himself 🫣
No! We are the problem. It is a shrewd political fact & reality that in order to get a philosophy (conservatism, etc.) elected, you have to strategize. You h a ve to be realistic and sober as boutique what’s possible. You have to offend & piss off the fewest number of people. More than anything, you have to be disciplined. The problem with the Republican establishment is they stopped truly supporting what everyday conservative Americans believe in. The problem with Trump is he was never disciplined or strategic & ultimately he wasn’t thinking in terms of how to make a philosophy palatable and win elections to further conservative goals. Trump is always ultimately only about Trump. He throws us bones by identifying with us. So much so, that many on our side will blindly follow him anywhere- even if it’d a losing proposition. I truly believe that the establishment types can no longer represent out side. But, I’ve also come to the conclusion that we won’t win with Trump because I don’t think he’s ultimately doing any of this to win elections. I think it’s more about himself- the crowds, the attention & putting himself in the position of kingmaker. The truth is that I think both are dreadful options when it comes to championing a conservative moral code, economic stance & governing philosophy 🤔
If heroes it will be due to DNC Stalinist show trial with Republican party help.
George Bush was a good governor too. So said the folks back then….
Not really.
Hmmmmm? Facts can get in the way.
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“Overwhelmingly, the fights he gets in aren’t about defending the constitution or fighting for the future of the country- they’re about me, me, me! He throws a few bones out to keep so many folks on our side believing that he’s fighting on our behalf.”
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https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/
“ Not really.” When he was running he campaigned and lauded as a good governor .
Exactly my point. Good governors don’t necessarily make good presidents.
I often times marvel at the responses to anything even barely critical of Trump- not because many feel championed by Trump- but the lengths people will go in their defense. We had good economic times under Bush too- that didn’t make him a good President. I assumed when I voted for Trump (both times) that he would literally declare war on the Democrats, move heaven and Earth defend us & seal off the borders. Mostly, I also assumed that he would go in to 2020 prepared for the fact that Democrats would try and rig the election. He wasn’t prepared for any of that. I hoped he would be the guy thinking 10 steps ahead, instead his goal for the next week speaks volumes- he’s going to release the kraken yet again and talk about the 2020 election. A good economy is not enough of a benefit for losing our constitutional republic because Trump would rather Twitter war or have his ego pumped at a rally. I want sealed borders, honest elections & protection of constitutional rights! 🙄
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