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Ukraine SitRep: The End Of The Counteroffensive
Moon of Alabama ^ | 8/12/23 | Moon of Alabama

Posted on 08/12/2023 4:25:28 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970

Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.

The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.

That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional 'aid' to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.

The Polish President Duda has also acknowledged that the counter-offensive has failed. Relations between Warsaw and Kiev have gotten worse and Polish interests will not allow for more support or active intervention.

Nothing has come from the 'peace conference' which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine's behalf.

Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.

Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.

In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area:

A mandatory evacuation has been ordered for the Ukrainian city of Kupyansk and its surrounding areas, as Russia intensified shelling of Ukraine’s northeastern Kharkiv region and claimed to have captured Ukrainian positions near the city on Thursday. But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.

The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):

Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks. "Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.

According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience "shell hunger".

Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.

That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.

Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):

Cont. reading: Ukraine SitRep: The End Of The Counteroffensive

Posted by b at 13:06 UTC | Comments (383)


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KEYWORDS: offensive; russia; ukraine; war
I've been reading the daily comments on the Ukraine threads at this site lately, as it is MUCH more informative than trying to find anything beyond the most superficial reports at legacy media websites. While some of the commentary is banal, there are a lot of people weighing in who are clearly knowledgeable and making a serious effort to understand what's really going on.
1 posted on 08/12/2023 4:25:28 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970
I think most everyone here knew that this war would not go in favor of the Ukrainian government. Our government, however, was doing all it could to delay the inevitable, and I'll bet it was done so that all of the US government's dirty little secrets could be cleaned up or disposed of. But I'm willing to bet that Russia will come across something of interest when they finally out the current regime and get their folks into place. Then things will get very interesting.

Gosh, do I sound cynical?

2 posted on 08/12/2023 4:41:01 PM PDT by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: EnderWiggin1970

IBTAN


3 posted on 08/12/2023 4:41:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

So, do we get our money back?
Or do we get favorable future rates for everything out of Ukraine?
Or, do we just take the oil/gas/fertilizer as payback?

Or just kick back another 10% for The Big Guy and cal it a day?

Guess Blackrock will be the only winner.
And all the Defense Contractors, Corporate Media Agents,Middle Man Agents, Banksters and other Crony Cap Bastards.


4 posted on 08/12/2023 4:47:46 PM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: kiryandil

LOL


5 posted on 08/12/2023 4:53:48 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Another excerpt from your thread post:

"The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.

1. Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
...
2. No rotation. The soldier says that "the same brigades" are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months."

ransomnote: even 3 months on the  front seems like an eternity - I can't imagine the despair of trying to last 6 months! Another reason why I think Dante's 'Inferno' missed a level of hell (i.e., Ukraine).  Add to this torment, the statement by the archbishop below:

 "....wounded Ukrainian soldiers are having their organs harvested..." according to Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. What a nightmare.

"Let’s not forget that Ukraine is the main player in the market of surrogacy, organ predation, and human trafficking, which also feeds the pedophile network. The denunciations of humanitarian organizations leave no doubt about these unprecedented horrors: children are being killed and dismembered to send their organs to clinics in the West; wounded Ukrainian soldiers are having their organs harvested for the same purpose; the lives of innocent creatures are being sold to rich perverts to satisfy their abominable deviations. And we know how much the deep state is composed of characters who can be blackmailed precisely in furtherance of these execrable crimes, a dynamic highlighted by the recent film Sound of Freedom." ~ Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò 


6 posted on 08/12/2023 4:54:53 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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"Let’s not forget that Ukraine is the main player in the market of surrogacy, organ predation, and human trafficking, which also feeds the pedophile network.

So, in reality, we're fighting satan!

I knew that clown, fag Zelensky reminded me of someone!

7 posted on 08/12/2023 5:05:11 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: EnderWiggin1970

How many Uke supporters here still think they can pull out a win from their rectal region?


8 posted on 08/12/2023 5:51:53 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: EnderWiggin1970
"Polish interests will not allow for more support or active intervention."

People should learn from their past mistakes. Poles allowed the British to use them as a proxy in 1939 and that worked ou9t pretty horribly for them.

9 posted on 08/12/2023 6:26:18 PM PDT by ganeemead ( )
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To: ransomnote
Have you ever stopped for a moment to think whether or not the things you are reading and posting have any basis in reality?
10 posted on 08/12/2023 7:27:51 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: EnderWiggin1970

If you think reading pro-Russian propaganda informs you about what is happening in Ukraine you are going to realize at some point that the Russian government is very good at information operations and not so good at actual military operations.


11 posted on 08/12/2023 7:39:06 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Russia is incredibly good at making stuff up, refusing to provide evidence that it’s not making stuff up, making up another bunch of stuff when they get caught out lying... and getting people who think they’re good at critical thinking to fall for it over and over and over again.

If the St Petersburg industry told us a hundred times a day that the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, there’d definitely be numbskulls on FR who’d be adding “we can all see it goes east to west” to their curated list of “Globohomo Fake News” or “I don’t know what to believe”.

Sometimes I wish I’d been born in the USA because by god, I’d be a billionaire by now. Some people will literally believe anything, no matter how dumb, if you repeat an advert to them often enough and tell them that all the other ads lie.


12 posted on 08/14/2023 5:11:42 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe". https://www.thefabulous.co/s/2uHEJdj)
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