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Ford/GM can't compete with TESLA.
1 posted on 08/03/2023 11:48:55 AM PDT by Kaiser8408a
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To: Kaiser8408a

I’m sure Teslahumper and the fake news will tell us this is wonderful


2 posted on 08/03/2023 11:50:04 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: Kaiser8408a

why is ford pissing away money?

did they think evs would sell?


3 posted on 08/03/2023 11:50:59 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: Kaiser8408a

The numbers are breathtaking. $4.5 billion loss from its EV segment this year

Yet Ford beat earnings estimates: EPS of $0.72, beating expectations of $0.54.

Adjusted EBITDA $3.8 billion vs estimated $3.15 billion.

If it didn’t have that EV loss, would EBITDA have been $7.65B?


4 posted on 08/03/2023 11:55:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (We are proles, they are nobility.)
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To: Kaiser8408a

Wow, the amount of bullsh!t in this story can take your breath away. Ford stock price briefly exploded in late 2021. It’s now on the high end of the range that it’s otherwise been in since the WTC attacks ($2 to $16).

“Losses” here mean “investments.” To call it a “loss” is to imply falsely that Ford has no more assets after spending the money than it did when it began. Ford’s creation of its electric car program has cost several billion dollars. These same preachers of stupidity warned gullible conservatives for years and years how Tesla could never make money, and was losing billions. Tesla is now worth ten times more than Ford and GM combined.


5 posted on 08/03/2023 12:04:16 PM PDT by dangus
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deliberate planned economic sabotage


7 posted on 08/03/2023 12:09:08 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: Kaiser8408a
--- "Ford is slated to lose $4.5 billion from its EV segment this year, a $1.5 billion larger loss than the company had expected."

Like Jiminy Cricket, sing with me----

When you wish upon EVs,
Makes no difference, if you please,
Anything that Biden wants will cost too much.
Like a Volt or other car,
Rivian and Ford so far,
Going into hock for all the green cash crutch.
Fate's unkind,
It brings to those who think
Wishing things were so
Is just so rinky-dink....
Like a Volt or Ford EV,
Charging up each battery,
Anything that Biden wants will cost too much.

9 posted on 08/03/2023 12:12:29 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Kaiser8408a

They expect the pickup truck buyers to finance their EV project by loading them up with worthless extra cost options, stupid lift kits and shiny/black trinkets plus the dealer market adjustments. Ford and Chrysler are the worst. I’ll keep my Tacoma and watch all the Truck Nutz go by.

Please, a $75K F150...


10 posted on 08/03/2023 12:13:30 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Kaiser8408a

HA~~!!!...............Tesla???


12 posted on 08/03/2023 12:18:24 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Kaiser8408a
Local Ford dealership now has four Mach-E (spit!) sitting on their lot with one being offered for lease at $649/month. At least two have sat there for 2+ months.

My missus's 2019 F150 is now $20k+ more for the identical trim level.

Ford is run by morons.

13 posted on 08/03/2023 12:20:36 PM PDT by Lovely-Day-For-A-Guinness (Jesus rides beside me, He never buys any smokes)
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To: Kaiser8408a

not enough. i want the idea crushed.

let these things sink or swim in the free market. sick of subsidizing this crap.

and by the way how about eliminating the gasoline tax until we figure out how to get the EV owners to help pay for the roads they drive on?


15 posted on 08/03/2023 12:23:53 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Kaiser8408a

It’s almost comical watching these auto manufacturers commit suicide by switching to EVs.


19 posted on 08/03/2023 12:47:25 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: Kaiser8408a

These kinds of articles reminds me of the famous, infamous Solyndra. There was an analyst who accurately, to the month, determined when Solyndra would close its doors. Obama funneled millions of dollars to Solyndra. Each item that was produced sold at a specific loss, so the calculations were actually not that difficult. The analyst simply added up the monthly losses, and determined that in September of a certain year, the money would run out. I was actually listening to good ‘ol KSFO at the time, the morning they shut down. A Solyndra worker called into the radio show to describe the insanity. Solyndra had called everyone in to announce the shutdown.

The original head(s) of Solyndra had left the company earlier in the year. They were found out to be major contributors to Obama (just funneling money to and fro).


20 posted on 08/03/2023 12:56:41 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Kaiser8408a

Ford will be bankrupt in 24 months.


21 posted on 08/03/2023 1:19:17 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaiser8408a

If Ford really applies itself, they could lose $9 billion next year and $18 billion the year after. The market will only support a few hundred thousand EVs a year so Tesla (self igniting, driving and crashing), Ford (barbecue lightning PU), Chevys (Volt bomb with wheels) etc.are all competing for that limited number of buyers.


23 posted on 08/03/2023 1:34:57 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Kaiser8408a

But it won’t add anything to the cost of a real car. /S


24 posted on 08/03/2023 1:41:01 PM PDT by OKSooner ("That's not my concern.")
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To: Kaiser8408a

Homos running Ford don’t have a clue what is going on,


25 posted on 08/03/2023 1:57:12 PM PDT by chopperk ( )
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To: Kaiser8408a

Dump Ford stock now.


26 posted on 08/03/2023 1:57:45 PM PDT by chopperk ( )
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Ford received a $9.2 billion loan from the government to build EVs.

And with the $4.5 billion loss on EVs the past year, they can use that to write off taxes for a while.

28 posted on 08/03/2023 3:37:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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