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To: Jonty30
If the definition of omnipresence is being in every single atom, than God cannot be omnipresent, because not being of His creation eliminates omnipresence.

Perhaps we need to reexamine or redefine the concept of "omnipresence".

No wonder Mary Baker Eddy was confused.

However, for all practical purposes, because I can commune with God anytime and anywhere I wish and so can all the 8 billion other people, God is omnipresent.

Great explanation. I agree wholeheartedly.

But that's not "omnipresence." For all we know, God could be at a call center in India, answering everyone's prayers simultaneously. His being accessible to all does not mean that he is everywhere at once.

27 posted on 07/16/2023 6:11:45 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting
The concept of omnipresence is not well-defined, which makes it prone to various interpretations.

The word itself is not in the Bible. It crept into Christian mythology somewhere along the way.

Hence, we have people like Mary Baker Eddy seeking to "clarify" it in her own way and leading people astray.

41 posted on 07/16/2023 6:39:08 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting
God could be at a call center in India

Yes, and everywhere else, too.

48 posted on 07/16/2023 6:55:36 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: Jess Kitting; Jonty30
But that's not "omnipresence." For all we know, God could be at a call center in India, answering everyone's prayers simultaneously. His being accessible to all does not mean that he is everywhere at once.

The problem is the inability of our finite mind to grasp the infinite. Scripture does say:

    For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. (Colossians 1:16,17)

The Amplified Bible describes it as, "His is the controlling, cohesive force of the universe.". This was always an amazing thought to me regarding atoms: “It is the strong nuclear force that holds the protons and neutrons together in the tiny atomic nuclei, overcoming the electrostatic repulsion of the protons” (New collaboration to probe physical reality’s quantum ‘glue’). Without this force there would be no universe. So, yes, God IS everywhere at once.

92 posted on 07/17/2023 3:05:20 PM PDT by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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