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To: ckilmer

“the russians bragging that they turned oswald.”

That is amusing.

What actually happened is that Counterintelligence Director James Jesus Angleton had a program to create fake “defectors” to the Soviet Union. There were seven or eight of them. They were taught Russian while in the US military and then “defected” to the Soviet Union.

In Oswald’s case he was given the specifications of the U2 (which he did not have the clearance for at the Japanese base where he served as a Marine) and he gave those specifications to the Russians.

The CIA’s motive was to disrupt peace talks between Eisenhower and the Russians—the U2 shoot-down stopped them from happening—mission accomplished.

The Russians took the bait and rewarded Oswald with a good life in Minsk—but there were probably debates within the KGB as to whether he was a legitimate defector or not—at the end of the day they were glad to be rid of him when he asked to be returned to the US.

Once Oswald became the patsy for the JFK assassination the Russians knew they had been suckered.


122 posted on 07/06/2023 9:47:17 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

but there were probably debates within the KGB as to whether he was a legitimate defector or not—at the end of the day they were glad to be rid of him when he asked to be returned to the US.
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Your story moves into speculation here.
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Once Oswald became the patsy for the JFK assassination the Russians knew they had been suckered.
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The above sentence makes no sense—given the information preceding.


123 posted on 07/06/2023 10:12:24 AM PDT by ckilmer (ui)
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