Posted on 06/17/2023 11:16:40 AM PDT by Jacquerie
Anyway has SCOTUS touch any of the 17 Amendments passed after the first 10? Did SCOTUS ever touch the BOR from being unconstitutional, lol? Please tell me you are just trolling. Again, Article III or opinions thereof can't touch or override an amendment that was ratified by the States. Please stop, lol, my sides are bursting.
Yates understood the dangers of the Article III powers and argued against it, but his insight was neither deliberated nor asserted in the original writing of the Constitution. If so, then why the need for Article V?
Marshall assumed and did not fulfill Yates’ warnings about the Article III powers of the judiciary.
Regardless, as a practical matter, judicial review has supplanted Article V.
What Deep State outrage could convince you of the necessity of an Article V Convention of the States?
Robert Yates bailed out of the Federal Convention in early July before it wrote Article III.
Yep, and there was little debate over Article III. For example in early August, they were still arguing over minutia, such as:
Art: III. considered ... “Mr. Govr. Morris moved to (insert) “legislative acts” instead of “all cases””
And here from Madison’s notes on Hamilton’s proposal of June 18 in various points, regarding the judiciary:
I “The Supreme Legislative power of the United States of America to be vested in two different bodies of men; the one to be called the Assembly, the other the Senate who together shall form the Legislature of the United States with power to pass all laws whatsoever subject to the Negative hereafter mentioned.
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VII. The Supreme Judicial authority to be vested in[ ]Judges to hold their offices during good behaviour with adequate and permanent salaries.1920 This Court to have original jurisdiction in all causes of capture, and an appellative jurisdiction in all causes in which the revenues of the general Government or the citizens of foreign nations are concerned.
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X All laws of the particular States contrary to the Constitution or laws of the United States to be utterly void; and the better to prevent such laws being passed, the Governour or president of each state shall be appointed by the General Government and shall have a negative upon the laws about to be passed in the State of which he is Governour or President.
https://www.consource.org/document/james-madisons-notes-of-the-constitutional-convention-1787-6-18/
Do you believe the Framers purposely left behind a hand grenade to blow up their Constitution?
You are a distraction from real people working on real things. Like a benchwarmer on a team, telling other players the call is wrong on the last play. We are VERY LATE, Article V is a good call, possibly the best. Why not get behind it and try at this point? You don’t think it will work? We are hanging from our last thread. Elections are fixed, if you work against the King, you go to jail or killed. Pick a thing and follow, right wrong or indifferent....INDIFFERENCE is the place where Evil thrives. Sorry, not personal but the hour is late, and the patient I fear is in the hands of Jack Kevorkian
I did, exactly that. Years ago. I've moved on. I've posted positively here on FR on ArtV many times, way back.
All I can say is, check out the counterargument that I put forth.
If you choose to just look see, one or more of these leads, if not convince you, at least inform you where my argument is coming from:
COG (Continuance of Government) or Devolution. The 17-minute DJT inauguration speech of 1/20/17 points to that, and describes precisely what DJT was doing just about every moment of his 4-year's in office. EO 13848 and EO 13818, as well.
Best Wishes to you!
It is late, and Art 5 won't cut it.
Ever watch the movie V for Vendetta???
The night is darkest just before dawn.
The Constitution doesn’t need to be rewritten, it just needs to be ENFORCED.
A convention per Article 5 now will be captured by the RINOs and leftists who are already ruining the Noble Experiment, hastening its’ final destruction.
Believing otherwise is just an ignorant fantasy.
Get "real". If real people were working on real things, we wouldn't be in the quagmire we're in right now. Article 5 is just a Pandora's Box waiting to be opened. "Real people" would be no more able to control the evils released than they can control the evils visited upon us right now. Besides, if I'm such a distraction...ignore me.
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