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There is a "Highly Habitable" Planet Just 4 light years from Us, Astronomers Say
The Space Academy ^ | June 11, 2023

Posted on 06/12/2023 7:40:42 AM PDT by McGruff

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To: The Free Engineer
Voyager I has been moving away for 45 years and is just over 18 light-minutes distant. or about 1/1600th of the distance to Proxima.
Going to need something faster than chemical rockets.

Voyager I does not have chemical rockets as a means of propulsion. Those are only for adjustments and positioning.

Voyager I has been using gravity wells of the planets to accelerate outward.

However, you point is well taken--chemical rockets would not last long enough to get to anywhere else. We can't store it on board at launch, and there isn't enough fuel between there and here to harvest.

121 posted on 06/12/2023 12:02:34 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: Secret Agent Man
As per the foreign army, have no idea what scenario you’re thinking of there.

ScenarioS

How soon they forget.

No dramatic images of the Bay of Pigs, but I'm pretty sure that if they had a chance to avoid being at the mercy of Castro and Guevara...

122 posted on 06/12/2023 12:05:28 PM PDT by null and void (I’m starting to get the feeling that everything will kill covid except the vax.)
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To: null and void

Hurray. Let’s get up a gofundme page to enable that to happen.


123 posted on 06/12/2023 1:33:24 PM PDT by antidemoncrat (AS )
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To: Red Badger
Send a self-piloting drone ship with a program to explore the entire surface of the planet and send the data back to Earth...

By the time the data arrives back the whole probe program will be long forgotten.

124 posted on 06/12/2023 1:34:17 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: lee martell
We can’t even get back to the Moon so far.

No so much "can't" as didn't. We could have.

125 posted on 06/12/2023 1:42:43 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: null and void
There is probably life elsewhere in the universe, but it is rendered irrelevant by physics. We can’t get there from here and they can’t hear from there. Consider Newton: E=1/2mv2 meaning that to travel say 50% of light speed you have to supply 1/8mC2 energy to whatever mass you want to go that fast. Chemical energy tops out at .000057 light speed (voyager I) nuclear power still nowhere near enough. How much uranium mass is actually converted to energy? About .1% of the fuel mass in a reactor is converted to energy. So .1% of the fuel mass is the most you have to accelerate the reactor and the entire rest of the vessel to whatever velocity you can get.

oh wait I know how to solve it!! We can use magic wind and solar and batteries just like magic EVs will use. Unless you lifespan runs in the 100,000s of years interstellar travel remains in the realm of science FICTION.

126 posted on 06/12/2023 4:03:45 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: The Free Engineer

You’re a little off - it’s 1/116800 of the way.


127 posted on 06/12/2023 4:24:31 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: null and void
Ah.

In that case, I don't want to go.

128 posted on 06/12/2023 4:43:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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